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| Brezinski Calls for Obama to Shoot Down Israeli Jets |
| 2009-09-20 |
In a little noticed interview with the Daily Beast (presumably little noticed because serious people don't read the Daily Beast), Zbigniew Brzezinski suggests that Barack Obama do more than just refuse to support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites -- the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace:DB: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in AmericaÂ’s worst interest? Contrary to Brezinski's half-hearted disclaimer that no one wishes for such an outcome, there are plenty on the left who would delight in a pitched battle between the United States and Israel. Democrats in Congress routinely support resolutions affirming Israel's right to take whatever steps it deems necessary to assure its own national defense. And Obama has at least paid lip service to the concept. But hostility to Israel among the rank and file is very real on the left -- and among "realists." So conjure the image -- the Obama administration sending U.S. aircraft up to protect Iran's airspace and it's nuclear installations from an attack by a democracy that is one of America's closest allies. Unfortunately, this may not be so hard to imagine in Israel, where the number of people who believe Obama is pro-Israel is at just 4 percent -- and falling. And given Obama's (literally) submissive posture to the Saudis, his indulgence of the Iranians, and his simultaneously hard-line approach to Israel, it seems even some of Obama's supporters can savor the possibility of a "reverse Liberty." |
| Posted by:Anonymoose |
| #17 Yeah, and they're gonna take that missile shield that was planned for Eastern Europe and put it in Iran just in case the Juice try to fire missiles. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2009-09-20 20:31 |
| #16 CSIS wanted to be SPECTRE, but none of its members could figure out how to operate an elevator. I think Anonymoose just won the thread. |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-09-20 18:03 |
| #15 SPECTRE - SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion : Anonymous - CSIS is part of the organization; everytime these people pontificate the "C" or "T" comes into play. |
| Posted by: Blinky Uluns9485 2009-09-20 14:56 |
| #14 Remember that Brzezinski belongs to CSIS, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a collective of the very worst failures of American foreign policy since the 1960s. Other members include Henry Kissinger, Madelyn Albright, Carter-era draft dodger and SecDef Harold Brown, general purpose scoundrel Richard Armitage, ex-Republican RINO/ex-senator William Cohen, etc. CSIS wanted to be SPECTRE, but none of its members could figure out how to operate an elevator. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2009-09-20 14:45 |
| #13 All this time I thought Brezinski had no sense of humor. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2009-09-20 14:11 |
| #12 he defines "our" differently than you or I would |
| Posted by: Frank G 2009-09-20 13:14 |
| #11 the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace Is this guy a total idiot? Does he even have a clue about who our enemies are? |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2009-09-20 13:13 |
| #10 The point, Cheack, is not that Obama would consider doing it, but that the Carterite fossil actually suggested it. I remember the ridiculous picture of Zbig posturing on the Afghan-Pakistan border shortly after the Soviet invasion in 1979, aiming an assault rifle into Soviet held territory on the other side for the benefit of news cameras. The Russkies were probably thinking "Yeah, make my day." |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2009-09-20 12:53 |
| #9 "An Israel that had to operate under the assumption that her deepest darkest secrets were known to Iran" I'll bet Netanyahu already does that, CF - since Bambi's in office here.... (At least I hope so.) |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2009-09-20 12:29 |
| #8 I don't want to defen Zbig or Obama here, but is this threat really serious? Wouldn't the use of US military power in the defense of Iranian nukes be an extremely unpopular move (to put it mildly), provoking congressional countermeasures (condemnation, defunding, threat of impeachment)? The Obama administration could hurt Israel in a much less conspicuous though maybe equally severe way by sharing intelligence on Israel with Iran. An Israel that had to operate under the assumption that her deepest darkest secrets were known to Iran would probably even be more constrained by that than by an empty threat of military engagement. |
| Posted by: Cheack Forkbeard2847 2009-09-20 11:51 |
| #7 Besoeker, any IDF pilot captured by US or Iraqi forces would, under Obama, probably be sent to Iran as an apology. |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2009-09-20 11:47 |
| #6 This scenario has been discussed here previously. Taken a frightening stip further, what an IDF pilot(s) bail out due to hostile fire or equipment malfunction, land in Iraq and are policed up by US or Iraqi military personnel. Will he or she detained in an Iraqi prison facility or a US confinement center? Will they go there by.... train? |
| Posted by: Besoeker in Duitsland 2009-09-20 09:51 |
| #5 senility alert |
| Posted by: lex 2009-09-20 09:47 |
| #4 Scumbag |
| Posted by: newc 2009-09-20 08:36 |
| #3 I fully support shooting down an Israeli plane as long as a Carter retread is aboard. |
| Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie 2009-09-20 04:35 |
| #2 Too bad there's not something stronger to file this under. "Seedy Politicians" seems just too tame |
| Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-20 01:13 |
| #1 Zbiggy has never changed from his Carterite Jooooo hatred |
| Posted by: Frank G 2009-09-20 00:08 |