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Afghanistan
Marines Face Stiff Taliban Resistance
2009-07-20
GARMSIR, Afghanistan, July 19 -- Marines pushing deep into a Taliban stronghold in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province battled insurgents in a day of firefights around a key bazaar Sunday, as an operation designed as a U.S. show of force confronted resistance from Taliban fighters as well as constraints on supplies and manpower.

Insurgents at times showed unexpected boldness as they used machine guns, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to fight the advancing Marine forces. Although the Marines overpowered the Taliban with more sophisticated weapons, including attack helicopters, the clashes also indicated that the drive by about 4,500 Marines to dislodge the Taliban from its heartland in Helmand is running up against logistical hurdles.

The firefights erupted a day after the Marines raided Lakari Bazaar in Garmsir district, a market that the Taliban has long used to store and make weapons and drugs, as well as to levy taxes on civilians. The Taliban until now had free rein in the area because there had been virtually no Western or Afghan government presence.

"This has been their turf for a long time, and now we are in here, invading their space," said Capt. John Sun, Fox Company commander, at his makeshift headquarters in a fabric stall inside the bazaar. "The bazaar was a huge financial and logistics base for the Taliban, and they want to get that back."

The Marine advance began Friday when Fox Company, a unit of roughly 200 Marines, traveled in open-back trucks on a grueling, overnight journey east and south through the desert to avoid routes implanted with bombs. The Taliban has littered the main routes in Garmsir with roadside bombs, called improvised explosive devices or IEDs, forcing U.S. commanders to bar most travel by military vehicles on those roads. The number of IED attacks in southern Afghanistan has surged 78 percent over the past year, with much of the increase in Helmand.

Arriving at Lakari Bazaar at daybreak Saturday for the raid, the Marines went door to door, using explosives, rifles and axes to break into each store.

"Breaching!" yelled Lance Cpl. Travis Koehler, 21, of Fountain Valley, Calif., as he shot off a lock with his MK-12 marksman's rifle and kicked open the door for a team of Marines to enter. "All clear!"

Afghan soldiers advised by British troops searched the market and together with the Marines uncovered mortars, grenades, ammunition, and thousands of 100-pound bags of opium poppy and bomb-making materials, as well as facilities where the bombs and drugs were produced. They found tax receipts and recruiting leaflets calling on young men to join the Taliban and kill British and U.S. troops.

"The bazaar has been used by the Taliban as a staging area, weapons cache and profit base," by taxing local vendors, Sun said.

The Taliban had left the market before the raid, however, and only a handful of shopkeepers were around, leaving it deserted but for a few cats and donkeys.

Late Saturday, Sun received word that the Taliban was regrouping in a nearby village across a canal to the west. At 3 a.m. Sunday, he launched 2nd Platoon, which includes dozens of Marines, on a foot patrol to investigate. At about 8, the patrol moved into an open field, where it was ambushed by Taliban fighters positioned in two tree lines to the south and east.

When Taliban fighters fired the first shot with an AK-47 assault rifle, Sgt. Benjamin Pratt thought one of his Marines had discharged a round accidentally, he recounted. "Hey, who shot?" he called back to his squad. But within seconds, the men realized they were under fire.

"Where is the . . . fire coming from?!" shouted Lance Cpl. James Faddis, 21, of Annapolis, Md. Faddis, in his first firefight, was the M-240 machine gunner for a weapons team that had advanced farther across the field than any other Marines and initially took the most direct fire from Taliban rifles and machine guns. Bullets were cracking around their heads and kicking up dust nearby.

"Get your gun up!" yelled Cpl. Jonathan Kowalski, 25, of Erie, Pa., ordering the Marines to fire toward the tree line to the south, where he saw muzzle flashes and Taliban fighters in dark dishdashas running between positions.

The insurgents began firing mortar rounds, honing their aim until one landed just 150 yards from the Marines. The Marines called in mortars of their own, which were fired from the bazaar onto the tree line, causing a few minutes' lull in the fighting.

Faddis and his team scrambled and crawled to a better position, but on the way Kowalski dropped his radio. So he and the other machine gunners had to shout to the infantrymen to indicate they could move forward.

Sgt. Deacon Holton bounded into the soggy field along with Cpl. Clayton Bowman and other Marines, running and slipping through knee-deep mud saturated from recent irrigation.

As the Marines maneuvered, a Huey and a Cobra attack helicopter flew in low overhead, circling above to spot the fighters. Capt. Brian Hill, the forward air controller, put on a bright orange panel and wore it like a cape to identify the Marine position.

Often Taliban fighters flee when helicopters arrive, Sun said, but this time they stayed, and attempted to fire a rocket-propelled grenade at one of the aircraft. The Huey made two strafing runs with its Gatling guns over the tree lines, while the Cobra fired missiles, finally ending the firefight. The helicopter crew spotted at least two dead Taliban fighters.

Although the Marines asked to pursue the Taliban fighters south, more senior commanders denied the request. Sun said he thinks the problem was a lack of helicopters to provide air power and to evacuate any possible casualties, as well as roads that had not been cleared of bombs.

"Due to the limited numbers of helicopters available, it would not have been in our best interest to get decisively engaged," Sun said. In addition, moving south would leave the bazaar open to attack, he said.

But some Marines voiced disappointment at not being able to track the Taliban, saying that decision may have allowed the insurgents to stage fresh attacks on the bazaar later in the afternoon. Faddis, Kowalski and their machine-gunning team were on guard duty in a mud-brick structure in the market that had a window facing fields to the south when shots broke out from a nearby compound. Faddis spotted a target and fired back. "They're moving out of the compound!" one Marine yelled, unleashing another volley of machine-gun fire.

The gun battle was complicated by the presence of women, children and shepherds in adjacent fields. Having staked out a claim in Lakari Bazaar, Sun said, the question remains whether his company should continue to hold this relatively strung-out position or pull back, knowing such a move would allow the Taliban to return, at least temporarily. "That's a dilemma," Sun said.
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#17  Typical WaPo surrender-monkey perspective. Better title might be something like "Taliban Flee In Disarray In the Face of Relentless Pursuit by US Marines," or maybe "Taliban Whimper Like Women as US Marines Stomp Their Asses."

Posted by: Lone Ranger   2009-07-20 21:30  

#16  That's one long-lived basic design! Though nowhere close to the B-52. At UH-1Y they are running out of suffix letters.
Posted by: Glenmore   2009-07-20 21:06  

#15  Glenmore, they might be one of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-1Y_Venom. Or might be one of the previous 'N' models.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2009-07-20 18:58  

#14  Interesting: if WE don't think we have enough helicopters, imagine just how bad it is for the Brits.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-07-20 18:11  

#13  I hadn't realized we were still using Hueys. But the Marines never get anything new.
Posted by: Glenmore   2009-07-20 17:17  

#12  Second reading indicates all of the above.
Posted by: JohnQC   2009-07-20 15:59  

#11  the clashes also indicated that the drive by about 4,500 Marines to dislodge the Taliban from its heartland in Helmand is running up against logistical hurdles.

Logistical hurdles? Can someone explain this to me? This would suggest that troops, supplies, or air support are not being provided as needed.
Posted by: JohnQC   2009-07-20 15:57  

#10  AFPAK

Me like.
Posted by: gorb   2009-07-20 15:28  

#9  BTW, I think y'all are misreading the tactical situation described in the article. The USMC hit hard in the field outside Lakari Bazaar, INCLUDING with choppers, DESPITE the presence of civilians nearby (civilians in the fields aint the same as civilians in compounds, and IIUC even the latter are not 100% off limits)

AFTER that, the Talibs, having lost 2 fighters, ran away (in good Pashtun fashion). The question THEN was to pursue or not, and the higher ups vetoed. Its good the Marines on the ground are so aggressive, I guess. But, from my limited understanding, holding for the logistics tail to catch up (like clearing the road behind of IEDs) make sense. This isnt Napoleon or Guderian striking the knockout blow. Killing a few more talibs in pursuit doesnt buy you that much, and endangering hold of a key community where you still need to hold and build is not worth the risk, I guess.
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-07-20 14:55  

#8  "It was the "good war" while they were bitching and moaning about Iraq. Iraq's won now, so we need an "exit strategy" for Afghanistan.

Christ, they're predictable. And slimy."

Keep that arrow in the quiver. Biden is moaning (and even he isn't saying withdraw now, just saying dont add troops, instead "redefine victory conditions"). I don't know of anyone else in the admin doing that. Certainly we are still adding troops, IIUC. Still backing the Petraues strategy. Obama hasn't YET gone back on the "good war" approach. If and WHEN he does, he will have some major league 'splainin to do, I agree. Meanwhiles, the USMC is making headway in Helmand, and Holbrooke and McCrystals mission is to WIN in AFPAK.
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-07-20 14:49  

#7  Specifically, the directive calls on commanders "to scrutinize and limit the use of force like close air support against residential compounds and other locations likely to produce civilian casualties."

That is the ROE set by the new commanderf in chief. Many fine men will die due to it while Libs sit in thetr fat a..s smoking pot.
Posted by: JFM   2009-07-20 14:29  

#6  Insurgents at times showed unexpected boldness..

Knowing what the Marines tend to do when folks shoot at them, they showed 'unexpected ignorance', too.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2009-07-20 14:12  

#5  It was the "good war" while they were bitching and moaning about Iraq. Iraq's won now, so we need an "exit strategy" for Afghanistan.

Christ, they're predictable. And slimy.
Posted by: Fred   2009-07-20 13:17  

#4  Sounds to me like a typical Taliban retreat. So much hand wringing from Wapo you think we were near defeat.
Posted by: Unique Battle   2009-07-20 13:13  

#3  What the Hawk says and the new tactical directive.


Specifically, the directive calls on commanders “to scrutinize and limit the use of force like close air support against residential compounds and other locations likely to produce civilian casualties.” Bombing residential compounds will be allowed only under very limited conditions, the directive says. For example, if a coalition force comes in contact with Taliban fighters and the enemy takes cover in a residential compound, the NATO force can break contact and wait out the enemy rather than calling for close-air support.

The gun battle was complicated by the presence of women, children and shepherds in adjacent fields
Posted by: Willy   2009-07-20 13:09  

#2  "Where is the . . . fire coming from?!" shouted Lance Cpl. James Faddis

I think there was a word or two left out there....lol
Posted by: Frank G   2009-07-20 13:07  

#1  WaPo headline this AM a tad misleading. They cited logistics problems - I thought some big deal creating major problems for the advance - the body of the article shows its a road not yet cleared of IEDs (a solvable problem) and a shortage of choppers.
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-07-20 11:33  

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