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Bambi blocks Apaches for Israel due to civilian casualties in Gaza
2009-05-30
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has blocked Israel's request for advanced U.S.-origin attack helicopters. Government sources said the administration has held up Israel's request for the AH-64D Apache Longbow attack helicopter. The sources said the request was undergoing an interagency review to determine whether additional Longbow helicopters would threaten Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip.
Only if the 'civilians' aim guns and rockets at the Longbows ...
"During the recent war, Israel made considerable use of the Longbow, and there were high civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip," a source close to the administration said.
Far fewer than there would have been if the Israelis had used the Russian or the Arab approach to war-making in crowded places ...
Or the wildly successful and widely praised Sri Lankan method.
The sources said Israel has sought to purchase up to six new AH-64Ds in an effort to bolster conventional and counter-insurgency capabilities. They said Israel wants to replenish its fleet after the loss of two Apache helicopters in the 2006 war with Hizbullah.

The Israel Air Force has also requested U.S. permission to integrate the Spike extended-range anti-tank missile into the AH-64D. Spike ER, developed by the state-owned Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, has a range of eight kilometers and was installed on the Eurocopter Tiger and AgustaWestland A129 helicopters. The sources said the deployment of Spike would require integration into the Longbow's millimeter-wave fire control and acquisition system. They said this would require permission from both Boeing and the U.S. government.

Israel's Defense Ministry and air force have discussed procurement of additional Longbows with the U.S. firm Boeing. But the sources said the Longbow as well as other defense requests have been shelved by the administration amid its review of the potential use of American weapons platforms by Israel.

During his visit to the United States, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu also sought to win approval from the Defense Department for the installation of Israeli-origin electronic warfare systems in the Joint Strike Fighter. Netanyahu was said to have met Defense Secretary Robert Gates in a review of Israeli defense programs with the United States. Defense Minister Ehud Barak was scheduled to meet Gates in Washington in early June.
Hate to say it but maybe the Israelis should look at French or British helicopters.
Better still, make their own. Maybe India would like to get in.
Posted by:Steve White

#26  CIA-please monitor this loser website.

Wrong agency - the CIA is only allowed to do overseas intelligence collection. The FBI, on the other hand...

I think you misunderstand what drives various government organizations in this country. Unlike Muslim leaders, the president has limited powers. Saddam could pull the head of the Mukabharat aside in a private room and blow his brains out. Ogabe cannot. Both the CIA and the FBI will be around long after Ogabe is dead and buried. They will do what they think is in the best interests of their organizations, not what they think is best for Ogabe. Since administrations change every four years, if the CIA and the FBI want to avoid jail time, they will stall Ogabe or outright resign to embarrass him when he wants to do something outrageous, such as spy on domestic opponents (in the CIA's case) or arrest them (in the FBI's case). Note that unlike in Muslim countries, we do have real elections every four years. Anything Ogabe does today, we can do to him once he is out of power. The possibility of future retribution, not any spirit of generosity, keeps Ogabe from doing some of the things he would like to do to the opposition.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2009-05-30 17:13  

#25  When I see the hard left and the Islamicists apologize for what they called George Bush, I'll reconsider the use of 'Bambi' ...
Posted by: Steve White   2009-05-30 16:11  

#24  My comment for the CIA, Obama is a prick. P.S. The FBI and the CIA agrees. They told me so.
Posted by: Spolusing Peacock4050   2009-05-30 15:51  

#23  Moon cults - like Islam?!?! - started with derogatory internet postings??? Wow! What brilliant insight. Please, tell me more....
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2009-05-30 14:24  

#22  For the record: I personally and repeatedly use the term Obamanation, albeit not out of love and admiration, but as a rebuke to the socialist-lite and proto-racialist policies this insane government wants to foist on the public.
Posted by: badanov   2009-05-30 13:26  

#21  thanks Pappy.
Posted by: Frank G   2009-05-30 13:04  

#20  Truth-
Its called Free Speech- I mean honestly, the shit spewing out of the ACLU is far more offensive than anything on this site.

I cannot wait to be the historian (I am working on my PhD) who writes a book on W. in the next 20 years with declassified documents showing all the terrorist attacks George W's policies stopped.....


Posted by: bgrebel   2009-05-30 12:57  

#19  
And that's his last one for today.
Posted by: Pappy   2009-05-30 12:54  

#18  "fess up?"

This is what I have to say to George Bush:
"May Allah guide you to Islam. Then I will invite you to the Steakhouse here!"

So there you go zorba loser!
Posted by: Truth oh yeah   2009-05-30 12:48  

#17  I'm guessing Truth was equally incensed over the 'BushChimpyMcHitler, etc. etc.' monikers applied to W for 8 solid years.

'Fess up, Truth! You going to tell us you compared those loser websites to the Nazis and the KKK as well? Hahahahaha.

Oblahblah bowls like a girl. He said it, not me, so shove it.

Posted by: Zorba   2009-05-30 12:20  

#16  It is called "Free Speech" truth, you bonehead. The lefty sites are filled with vile hate for Bush and I don't think they should be shut down. How about you go suck on a hellfire please, you fascist bastard.
Posted by: DarthVader   2009-05-30 12:15  

#15  Truth is back, posting from Mommy's basement in Saudi.
Posted by: Frank G   2009-05-30 12:11  

#14  Give them time, in fact a czar was just appointed to do this very thing.
Posted by: bman   2009-05-30 11:43  

#13  CIA-please monitor this loser website.

The president of the U.S.A being addressed as, "bastard", "Obamination" "Stick the longbow up his..." is dangerous.

This is how terror groups, the KKK, White supremists, Zionist Haganah, Moon Cults, Kooks and the Nazis started.

Why isn't there an internet monitoring website in the U.S.A. that can shut a website that abuses its' president with racist, demeaning terminology?

Posted by: Truth oh Yeah   2009-05-30 11:31  

#12  Hate to say it but maybe the Israelis should look at French or British helicopters.

Well, I don't hate to say it (although I understand the sentiment). I hope Bibi told the POS to stick the Longbow up his skinny Muslim ass, too.
Posted by: Zorba   2009-05-30 11:09  

#11  crazy fool but of course our president is muslim, i don't give a damn what he says he is he sure held on too that name
Posted by: funky skunk   2009-05-30 10:16  

#10  Pass the Rooivalk please.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-05-30 06:44  

#9  But Jewish Civilian Casualties are still ok right?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-05-30 02:57  

#8  I keep getting a laugh out of the suggestions that F Bomb Rahm is some kind of friend of Israel. He'd prolly send his mom to death row if it would help obambi...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2009-05-30 01:30  

#7  With Rahm Emanuel as CoS, I can't see this administration (this Obamination) hanging Israel completely out to dry - but they certainly appear to want to make Israel squirm. Maybe that's just throwing a bone to he moonbats?
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2009-05-30 01:27  

#6  You can just hear, feel HUGHES AIRCRAFT, ETC. + USDOD giving a collective "Huh!" agz the Bammer, can't ye???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-05-30 01:18  

#5  STARS-N-STRIPES > US FEARS [Asian Mil/NucTechs e.g. IRAN, PAK, even INDIA] ARMS MAY FALL INTO THE HANDS OF TERRORISTS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-05-30 01:16  

#4  Perhaps the Rooskis will sell them some of those scary-looking Hind helos.

Hind is to the Apache Longbow as the Mig-21 is to the F-22 Raptor.

No comparison...

Besides the Israelis have a program in place to update Hinds they have bought from India...
Posted by: badanov   2009-05-30 01:08  

#3  A little Chicago-style payback for not making nice during the recent meetings, eh? Perhaps the Rooskis will sell them some of those scary-looking Hind helos.
Posted by: SteveS   2009-05-30 00:51  

#2  Well, what do you expect from a bastard who bows to the King of Saudi Arabia and whose middle name is Hussein?
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2009-05-30 00:28  

#1  Oh, I somehow think they won't go without...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2009-05-30 00:25  

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