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Bush approved use of icky bugs in al-Qaeda interrogations
2009-04-17
Time, of course is horrified...
The Bush Administration approved the use of "insects placed in a confinement box" during the interrogation of top Al Qaeda official Abu Zubaydah, according to a 2002 document that President Obama declassified for release Thursday.
Muldoon, break out the jar of daddy long legs.
No Sarge! Not that!

The legal memorandum for the CIA, prepared by Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee, reviewed 10 enhanced techniques for interrogating Zubaydah, and determined that none of them constituted torture under U.S. criminal law. The techniques were: attention grasp, walling (hitting a detainee against a flexible wall), facial hold, facial slap, cramped confinement, wall standing, stress positions, sleep deprivation, insects placed in a confinement box, and waterboarding.
Where's beheading on that list?
The CIA desire to use insects during interrogations has not previously been disclosed, according to two civil liberties experts contacted by TIME.
That's shocking!
Manolo! More brandy!

The Bybee memorandum, which was written on August 1, 2002, described the CIA's plans for using insects this way: "You [the CIA] would like to place Zubaydah in a cramped confinement box with an insect. You have informed us [the Department of Justice] that he appears to have a fear of insects. In particular, you would like to tell Zubaydah that you intend to place a stinging insect into the box with him. You would, however, place a harmless insect in the box. You have orally informed us that you would in fact place a harmless insect such as a catapiller in the box with him."
God, these "terrorists" sound like a buncha little girls...eeeeeeewwwwww, bugs! I'll tell you whatever you wanna know!
An additional sentence at the end of this paragraph is redacted in the copy made public Thursday. Later in the same memo, Bybee concludes that "an individual placed in a box, even an individual with a fear of insects, would not reasonably feel threatened with severe physical pain or suffering if a caterpiller was placed in the box." Bybee adds, however, that the interrogators should not tell Zubaydah that the insect sting "would produce death or severe pain."
So...what's the point?
But...

The insect interrogation technique, as it turned out, was never used by the CIA, according to a second declassified memo released Thursday. "We understand that - for reasons unrelated to any concerns that it might violate the [criminal] statute - the CIA never used the technique and has removed it from the list of authorized interrogation techniques," wrote Steven Bradbury, a principal deputy assistant attorney general, in the footnote to a on May 10, 2005 document.
Nevermind...
Former Vice President Dick Cheney has admitted that U.S. interrogators used waterboarding on three detainees, including Zubaydah.
So... what's that have to do with the bugs? Oh, that's right. Time must remind everybody how evil he was at every opportunity...
The Bybee legal guidance is no longer in effect. Under an executive order President Obama signed during his first week in office, all CIA interrogators must now follow the rules laid out in the Army Field Manual.
...and then it was off to pizza with Stevie Wonder.
Posted by:tu3031

#15  Khaaaannnnn!
Posted by: Skunky Glins 5***   2009-04-17 19:48  

#14  No reason it can't be both, Abu.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2009-04-17 18:33  

#13  So why is this being released?

Either Obama is just incredibly naive or else he really does want to get us all killed.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2009-04-17 17:44  

#12  Most of these guys probably has to be de-loused when captured so what's the beef?

So why is this being released? Just to discredit the Bush administration? Or is there more to it than that?
Posted by: JohnQC   2009-04-17 17:30  

#11  The Marxist Media sez caterpillars are dangerous. Can we get Homeland Security on top of this latest right wing conspiracy?
Posted by: Mad Eye Clumble7157   2009-04-17 16:19  

#10  Arnold the Pig, huh? Oh! That's it. Why are we messing with bugs? We should lock 'em in a box with a pig! I'm talking about a great big 500-pound hog. That'd fix 'em.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2009-04-17 14:32  

#9  REminds me of the old "Bubba" joke, about sitting on the front porch at dusk, boozed to the gills and watching the mosquitos try to fly after biting, those that do get airborne, explode within 5 feet.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2009-04-17 12:33  

#8  Lets' get the Bush show trials going. We don't need all this evidence to put him in front of the Senate.
Posted by: bman   2009-04-17 11:44  

#7  yeah let him spend time in an outside cage inGA or FLA during the summer months he'll tell things his grandfather/ daddy held secret
Posted by: rabid whitetail   2009-04-17 11:40  

#6  Haven't the various EOs signed by Bambi left large loopholes WRT forceful interrogations?

Deliberately, Verlaine. But you knew that. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife in Buffalo   2009-04-17 09:57  

#5  A taste of Georgia?
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-04-17 08:35  

#4  Under an executive order President Obama signed during his first week in office, all CIA interrogators must now follow the rules laid out in the Army Field Manual.

Hmmm. I seem to recall it isn't quite this simple. Haven't the various EOs signed by Bambi left large loopholes WRT forceful interrogations?

Posted by: Verlaine   2009-04-17 02:00  

#3  See FREEREPUBLIC > MUSLIMS HAVE A BEEF WITH BEEF JERKY. Decadent Fascist Male Brute probably Male Amerikan, etc. ....... Globalists-Capitalists have appar been working wid a Radical US Xtremist group led by ARNOLD THE PIG [GREEN ACRES] TO MIX MOTHERLY COMMIE-SOC-LEFTIE ANTI-OWG PORK IN MUSLIMS' BEEF JERKY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-04-17 00:37  

#2  Torture TV!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNf6nS-ks8&feature=related
Posted by: Bright Pebbles the flatulent   2009-04-17 00:18  

#1  I'm hoping along the lines of Starship Trooper bugs. Or at least brain worms. Burrowing bowel beetles?
Posted by: Anonymoose   2009-04-17 00:17  

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