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Cal. Democrats plan to increase taxes
2008-12-18
Democratic legislative leaders are planning to use a series of complex legal maneuvers to raise Californians' gas, sales and income taxes over the objection of Republican lawmakers, who have been able to block such proposals in the past.
New York Democrats are raising taxes, too. Seems like a trend ...
Under the Democrats' plan, sales taxes would increase by three-fourths of a cent. Gas taxes would go up by 13.5 cents per gallon. And a surcharge of 2.5% would be added to income taxes.

California budget crisis spurs freeze on funds for schools, roads

There would also be new taxes aimed at oil companies.

The proposal, described by Capitol insiders who were briefed on it, will be voted on in the Senate and Assembly tonight. It is part of an $18-billion package of fee and tax hikes and spending cuts intended to address a budget deficit that is projected to grow to nearly $42 billion through mid-2010.

The plan relies on loopholes in the law that allow legislators to increase levies with a simple majority vote - as opposed to the two-thirds vote typically required - under very narrow circumstances. Obtaining a two-thirds vote to pass tax increases would require some GOP lawmakers to break their no-tax pledges.

Democrats would justify implementing the taxes with a simple majority by calling some of the revenues "fees" that pay for particular programs. Such fees can be put into effect without GOP support. They are also planning to take money from existing fee accounts, use it to balance the budget and then replenish the accounts with higher fees.

Such proposals have been floated in past budget crises but never acted on out of concern that they would unravel in court. If the plan is approved, GOP lawmakers and anti-tax groups are expected to file legal challenges.
Anyone in Laficornia think to cut spending ...
Posted by:Fred

#15  Atta boy Dna. Pick the nit and ignore the US Census data. Or crime data. Or illegal alien incarceration data. CA only admits it's over 10%. In Fed prison it's 17% and the LA Sheriff admitted it's 23%. That is, those the Sheriffs could positively identify were illegal.
Posted by: ed   2008-12-18 22:21  

#14  18 stations- well less than a third of the stations in la....
Posted by: dna   2008-12-18 20:20  

#13  Schwarzenegger to veto Democrats' budget plan
Posted by: Frank G   2008-12-18 20:17  

#12  I voted with my feet after 25 years a couple of years ago. Shoveling snow's no fun, but it beats what's coming for the Kayleefornians.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-12-18 20:17  

#11  NoMoreBS Dna is at least very, very close to the truth if not spot on.

Sorry. It was NoMoreBS who told it like it is. Told it better than I could have myself and I've certainly tried.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2008-12-18 19:57  

#10  I keep trying to tell Mrs. Uluque that we gotta move outta this state. Dna is at least very, very close to the truth if not spot on. You go up and down the radio dial in LA and try to find something worth listening to. Just try it.

But lately I find myself more in tune with the Hispanics than some of the looney, white liberals up in LA and the Bay Area. And the good old boys who are running San Diego are running it right into the ground. The Hispanics are a little more down to earth and if they replace us we will deserve it. I used to try to fight it but now I give up. There really isn't much left to save. Well, they don't call it LaLa land for nothin'.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2008-12-18 19:54  

#9  All new buildings in California must conform to the architectural prototype below:


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-12-18 19:15  

#8  Dna

P.S. If you consider Rap Music as a foreign language, as I do, then the 65% is a slam dunk statewide.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-12-18 19:04  

#7  Dna

California is a majority minority state. Los Angeles County is approaching a majority Hispanic population. Currently there a less than 30% non-Hispanic whites in LA County and rapidly approaching 50% Hispanic and 13% Asian. If LA doesn't have 65% foreign language stations they should certainly consider it.

Be that as it may, the new majority minorities expect plenty of government goodies. Productive people and businesses will continue to be taxed and regulated out of the state until there is no one left to pay the bills.

But they can always get a bond measure passed to pay for Stem Cell research, Global Warming, and Bullet Trains.

One day soon the state will get a message from GolfBravo, AMF.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-12-18 19:00  

#6  Don't know about LA radio, but NoMoreBS is essentially correct. We counted about 18 stations in Los Angeles that are either Spanish or are multi-cultural and include Spanish in their music or programming. At this writing, four of the top ten stations in Los Angeles are Spanish and the number-one station is usually Spanish.

Language other than English spoken at home, pct age 5+, 2000 - 39.5%
Foreign born persons, percent, 2000 - 26.2%
White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2006 - 43.1%

CA's hispanic population exceeded the caucasian population this year.
Posted by: ed   2008-12-18 18:17  

#5  dude 65% of LA radio stations are not in a foriegn language -- even including AM...where you getting your facts cause sure is not from listening to stations in Los Angeles
and according the us census (quick google search) 76% of the state reported causcausin (2006) -- now some of this is hispanic who consider themselves white and it is for the whole state...

but do agree with many of your points....just your facts are from chicken little.....
Posted by: Dna   2008-12-18 17:33  

#4  I've lived here since 1975, and I'm done. We have taken paradise and completely ruined it. 30 years of wildfire growth fueled by illegal (and legal) immigration, no infrastructure investments, deferred maintenance on virtually everything, management by childish people who have never really had to face adversity or hard work, rampant socialist educational systems, greed, cronyism, and ignorance. The state faces this crisis because of the entitlement mentality of all the people who have come here for the sweet ride 25% of the population was born in another country, over 40% of the population doesn't speak English at home, 65% of L.A. radio stations are in a foreign language, over 25% of the prison population is illegal immigrant. We have the highest per capita spending of any state, the greatest debt, the lowest debt rating, miserable school performance and a gridlocked state political system. The state hasn't built a freeway in 20 years, not a Dam in 40, yet the population has more than doubled. We don't produce enough electricity to power the state in summer, are facing a serious drought due to water storage shortages, and disappearing agriculture, the state mainstay industry.

And the solutions offered by the clowns who govern us? To create the highest tax rates in the country, to sustain the BS programs we already have, with no fixes for anything beyond buying more votes to stay in power.

This isn't diversity, this is cultural and national suicide by sheer cluelessness and sloth.
You couldn't write a book with this suicidal a plot for a state or, by extension, a nation!
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2008-12-18 16:36  

#3  Raising gas, sales and income taxes should be go over well.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon   2008-12-18 13:51  

#2  Same as above. Only worse. Kaleephoreeans better grab their wallet tight.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2700   2008-12-18 11:28  

#1  "Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree..."

...and watch as he pulls out from behind the tree in his car headed to someplace else where the government is better and the taxes are lower.

Cal has run off a tremendous amount of its productive citizenry. They're getting set to lose more of it. Maybe, though, they'll be the first state to tax itself into prosperity! Yes, that's it! Another first for the Golden State!
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800   2008-12-18 00:27  

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