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| Obama tried to stall withdrawal |
| 2008-09-15 |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #9 Yes Barbara, IIRC he referred to the Iranian holding our diplomatic personnel as 'barbarians'. They understood what the use of that terminology meant. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-09-15 17:17 |
| #8 P2K: "Two separate congressional investigations as well as several investigative journalists looked into the charges, both concluding that there was no plan to seek to delay the hostages' release." No need for Reagan to make a "secret" deal. He just passed the word on to Iran that once he was sworn in as President, we were coming for our people. Iran (at least then) may be crazy, but they weren't stupid.... |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-15 16:40 |
| #7 First of all, isn't this against the Logan ACT .... Since the act and its Constitutionality range from very lightly to completely untested I don't think anyone can actually answer that question with any certainty. IIRC a number of years ago some Congress Critters went to Cuba and there were noises about invoking the Logan Act against them upon their return but it never happened. Were there an actual declaration of war Obama would be on very thin ice I think but lacking such he'll probably avoid even questions about his actions. |
| Posted by: AzCat 2008-09-15 16:03 |
| #6 So the whole world wants us to elect The One, except Iraq? Remember Biden's call to divide up Iraq into 3 parts? |
| Posted by: lotp 2008-09-15 11:08 |
| #5 Its intermixed - the economy, oil, and WOT. If the democrats will allow us to develop our own sources for Oil (as well as solar, tidal, geothermal, etc...) it would boost the economy (less cost of transportation) and cut off terrorist funding. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2008-09-15 09:20 |
| #4 I doubt we would have withdrawn before elections anyway, it will be McCain or Obama's job to clean it up. The economy is my immediate concern, if our economy goes bad, so does our fighting ability. Oil is just 1 factor in our debt. Hunker down for the next 2 years! |
| Posted by: mastaf 2008-09-15 09:06 |
| #3 What I find of interest is that the Iraqi FM would make such a statement to an American columnist knowing it would have an effect on the election. So the whole world wants us to elect The One, except Iraq? |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-15 08:53 |
| #2 According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July. "He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion." First of all, isn't this against the Logan ACT - if it doesn't border on Treason. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2008-09-15 08:41 |
| #1 Of course if Trunks did something like this, the Donks would have Congressional investigations - "After the release of the hostages on the same day as Reagan's inauguration on January 20, 1981, some charged that the Reagan campaign made a secret deal with the Iranian government whereby the Iranians would hold the hostages until Reagan was inaugurated, ensuring that Carter would lose the election.[2] Two separate congressional investigations as well as several investigative journalists looked into the charges, both concluding that there was no plan to seek to delay the hostages' release.[2]" - wiki |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-09-15 08:27 |