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Home Front: Politix
Civil War breaks out at MSNBC - "Quagmire"
2008-08-28
DENVER -- Amid a spate of awkward on-air conflicts among MNSBC anchors at this week's Democratic convention, some staff members say there are sharp internal disputes at the cable network over whether its opinion and personality-driven political coverage has crossed the line. "The situation at our channel is about to blow up," a high-ranking MSNBC journalist told Politico on Wednesday.

Two other MSNBC sources said some of the testy on-air exchanges between Keith Olbermann -- whose quick-witted and often caustic commentary has fueled ratings growth -- and other network personalities were a public glimpse of much more intense behind-the-scenes turmoil.

As replays of the conflicts became YouTube hits, MSNBC President Phil Griffin gave his first public defense in a Politico interview. "MSNBC does not have an ideology," Griffin said. "We hire smart people who are passionate about their love of politics and love of news."

"Do I want them to have squabbles?" Griffin asked. "No. But I understand they're human."
Your understanding of Olbermann is different from ours ...
In addition to Olbermann, MSNBC personalities Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough and David Shuster were involved in Denver controversies.

On Monday evening, Olbermann interrupted Scarborough while he was talking about McCain being competitive in the polls. "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?" Olbermann remarked.

On "Morning Joe" the following day, a clearly agitated Scarborough went off on Shuster during a discussion of Iraq, which quickly devolved over several cringe-worthy minutes into personal attacks, such as Scarborough telling the world how his colleague missed the show three times by oversleeping. "Are you Rip Van Shuster?" Scarborough asked. "Have you been sleeping for the past couple of months?"

But Scarborough, a former Republican congressman from Florida, became enraged when Shuster made a reference to "your party." Asked by Scarborough what his party was, Shuster said he was an "independent."

"I feel so comforted by the fact that you're an independent," Scarborough said, in a mocking tone. "I bet everybody at MSNBC has independent on their voting cards. Oh, we're down the middle now." (Shuster left the set, but returned later to hug it out, "Entourage"-style.)

That night, Scarborough told NPR that he "get[s] frustrated by people who have an obvious partisan bias that don't proclaim that bias."

The old debate over election coverage bias was given new life on Sunday, when Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell -- who'd remarked during the primaries that Fox News was the "most objective" network -- told a panel of Sunday show anchors, including NBC's Tom Brokaw, that "MSNBC was the official network of the Obama campaign."
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#33  If you'd like a foretaste of an Obama administration, take note of the MLK theme and listen to the Motown Invesco stadium warm up and the list of performers selected. It is difficult for me to get my head around the idea that this empty suit has amassed such a cult following. I'm sadly becoming indifferent to the entire ordeal.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-28 19:40  

#32  Ya' looking for meaningful change, OM?

Then change your meds - for something stronger.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-08-28 19:29  

#31  Oversight Monitor sounds like God handing down the Ten Commandments.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-08-28 19:29  

#30  OM, if I want meaningful change I will give the store clerk $1.00 for a 25 cent item, not vote for Obama.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-08-28 19:22  

#29  
Posted by: Oversight Monitor   2008-08-28 19:04  

#28  Hahahahaha heh... Mike!
Posted by: .5MT   2008-08-28 19:01  

#27  Mike those guys on the NBC BoD are from GE -- our nation's largest aider and abettor of Iran.
Posted by: regular joe   2008-08-28 18:06  

#26  It's a quagmire, an unwinnable conflict that NBC should have never started, and one in which the troops have committed journalistic war crimes out of desperation and inflamed sectarian violence. The NBC Board of Dircetors should cut off funds to Olbermann and withdraw Chris Matthews and his technical crews to Okinawa. That'll force Scarborough and Shuster to settle their differences politically; but even if they don't, their civil war is none of our business.
Posted by: Mike   2008-08-28 17:49  

#25  More MSNBC Civil War footage

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-08-28 17:45  

#24  Scarborough goes balistic

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-08-28 17:40  

#23  Caylee is still missing.
Look how well Barack is doing!
Video footage of reporters outside Caylee courthouse.
Republicans did something bad.
The economy is bad! bad! People are hurting.
Is John McCain a bad man?
Breaking Update on Missing Caylee
Iraq bomb stats
non-informative news story about georgia
Caylee's mom's stripper footage.

Caylee and Gretta Van Sustern go out seaching for real killer(s).
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-28 17:11  

#22  maybe they can have a parking lot brawl worthy of "Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy"

...tonight, the streets of Denver run red w/the blood of Olbermann....hahahaha!
Posted by: Broadhead6   2008-08-28 16:43  

#21  Might make watching MSNBC worth watching for awhile. Highlights only, please.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon   2008-08-28 13:24  

#20  I'm tempted to send them some canes...
Posted by: mojo   2008-08-28 13:09  

#19  I expect Kenneth is seeking him out, even now.
Posted by: .5MT   2008-08-28 12:18  

#18  Olberman was a jerk when he was all-sports at ESPN. Everyone thinks he and Dan Patrick were the greatest thing in sports reporting since sliced bread but he was despised there because of his antics and left-wing political views. He is still a jerk and an arrogant misogynist that will get his some day. You just cannot continue to be this narcissistic and sarcastic and slanderous with out someone coming by and punching your lights out.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2008-08-28 11:44  

#17  But, but ... if the MSM dies, what will we have to post here and snark at?

Individual reporters who post their content online. Besides, last time I checked one of those "news" shows, this was the entire menu:

Caylee is still missing.
Look how well Barack is doing!
Video footage of reporters outside Caylee courthouse.
Republicans did something bad.
The economy is bad! bad! People are hurting.
Is John McCain a bad man?
Breaking Update on Missing Caylee
Iraq bomb stats
non-informative news story about georgia
Caylee's mom's stripper footage.

Rinse, repeat for 24 hours except for opinion shows that tell us how great Barack is doing despite the poor economy and racist Republicans.
Posted by: Betty Grating2215   2008-08-28 11:03  

#16  Give em all a sawed shotgun and a bowie knife and turn em loose in a vacant lot........

What a bunch of crap.

How a net work that employs an ex speech writer for Clinton as a commentator and claims to be impartial is just assinine.
Posted by: James Carville   2008-08-28 11:02  

#15  Atomic Conspiracy nailed it in one.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800   2008-08-28 10:29  

#14  But Red Dawg, this is precisely why a LIVE, networked gunfight is so necessary.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-28 10:12  

#13  Two other MSNBC sources said some of the testy on-air exchanges between Keith Olbermann -- whose quick-witted and often caustic commentary dip-shit mouth has fueled ratings growth plunge

WHAT A LIE! Olbermann has been in the TANK since he been on the air.

He's NEVER beatten FOX or even CNN's Larry King who's always behind FOX himself.

PMSNBC = PURE BULLSHIT
Posted by: Red Dawg   2008-08-28 10:08  

#12  And some cheap booze, Darth, to make the ensuing fights more interesting.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields   2008-08-28 09:56  

#11  Issue them pistols. Yes. And swords. And daggers.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-28 09:34  

#10  Olbermann is widely despised at MSNBC by everybody but the bosses. There is a waiting line to mess him up if the opportunity ever presents itself. But he is in the same position as a newspaper sob sister. Unless people continue to send Olbermann hate mail, he is out of there.

This usually means that over time his opinions will get so grotesque that they become comic, like advocating the kicking of puppies, just to piss people off.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-08-28 09:16  

#9  No bias? They're the absolute worst of all the news channels for bias, and have been for years. Who the hell are they kidding?
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-08-28 08:43  

#8  "MSNBC does not have an ideology,"

Our anchors, definitely. But BS-DNC MSNBC, no no no...
Posted by: Raj   2008-08-28 08:35  

#7  Bobby,

muslims. They've been doing snarkable stpid crap for 1500 years.
Posted by: Hellfish   2008-08-28 08:14  

#6  MSM death watch.
Die, monster, die!!
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2008-08-28 07:41  

#5  Pistols! Issue them all pistols!
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-28 07:36  

#4  Timing is everything. With this revelation now the MSM will be harder than usual on republicans next week with this new found "religion" never realizing that maybe they should have gotten religion before the DNC 08.
Posted by: badanov   2008-08-28 07:34  

#3  But, but ... if the MSM dies, what will we have to post here and snark at?
Posted by: Bobby   2008-08-28 06:02  

#2  Yes, die faster, please...mainstream media has got to go.
Posted by: gromky   2008-08-28 02:54  

#1  yawn. Watsa matter MSNBC?? Are your ratings falling so low that you are attempting to promote this faux controversy to get some sort of buzz going your way?

A few testy on air exchanges showing the "passion" of their anchors isn't going to save their sinking ship. Besides who cares? Other than the staff, there is no one else on board.

This whole thing is like
zzzzzz..SNORT!zzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: Betty Grating2215   2008-08-28 02:04  

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