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Afghanistan
France weighing Afghanistan role - Vichy solution with Taliban?
2008-08-24
PARIS -- The deaths of 10 French soldiers in an ambush by insurgents in Afghanistan has stoked a cry at home for France to rethink its commitment to the seven-year mission led by the United States.

Most French voters want out, and the opposition is ratcheting up the pressure on President Nicolas Sarkozy's government -- though analysts say France and other allies will dig in for the fight even as they insist on a new look at NATO's strategy against the Taliban and al-Qaida.

The word "quagmire" has popped up repeatedly when Afghanistan is discussed in Paris political circles -- even in Sarkozy's party -- since Monday's well-planned ambush of a French-led patrol in the Uzbin Valley east of Kabul. It was the deadliest attack on international troops in Afghanistan in more than three years, and the latest sign that the insurgency is growing stronger.

"The pressure is going to be: How do we get this war right?" said Francois Heisbourg, who heads the state-funded Foundation for Strategic Research think-tank in Paris.

French Prime Minister Francois Fillon has ordered a parliamentary debate and vote on France's role in Afghanistan, part of a new law requiring a lawmaker vote on foreign military missions lasting more than four months. They are expected to take place between Sept. 22 and Sept. 30.

Analysts say there is little chance that parliament -- where Sarkozy's conservatives have a large majority -- will vote to end France's participation in the Afghan mission. But Afghanistan is likely to grow in the French public eye.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, the defense and foreign ministers will separately face questions from parliamentary panels about the ambush -- such as the intelligence failings that led to such casualties in a well-trained French patrol. Aside from the 10 soldiers killed, an additional 21 were injured.

France has been at the side of the United States in Afghanistan ever since the allied invasion in 2001 that toppled the Taliban's regime. n April, Sarkozy agreed to increase the French commitment by 700 troops -- to 3,300 in the Afghan theater.

The evolution of the war in Iraq -- while in many ways very different from the one in Afghanistan -- looms large in French minds when it comes to considering their country's future role. "In the case of Iraq, the Americans had a big strategic rethink about how they were handling it," Heisbourg said. "That kind of rethink is what's going to have to take place with Afghanistan."

Sarkozy's top adviser, Claude Gueant, said the French public has "poorly understood" the "faraway" war in Afghanistan. He said one of the troubles the allies now face in Afghanistan is the return of jihadi fighters from Iraq. "Now that the situation is changing in Iraq, they are heading to a new front, which is the one in Afghanistan," Gueant told Le Parisien newspaper in an interview set for publication today.

Sarkozy insists France's commitment to the fight against terrorism in Afghanistan "remains intact" -- but he is staking at least part of his political capital on the effort to quash a resurgent Taliban.

"They're testing French public opinion," said Douglas Bland, a former colonel and the chair of defense management studies at Queen's University in Canada.

The French debate resonates in Canada, which has lost 93 soldiers in Afghanistan since the war began. Canada agreed to keep its 2,500 troops in southern Kandahar province only on the condition -- partially met by France's new commitment -- that NATO deploy reinforcements.

The risk for Sarkozy remains that the mission in Afghanistan could erode his popularity over time -- much like former Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain faced political damage over his commitment to the Iraq war.

"We're not in the Blair kind of situation, but it may come," said political analyst Dominique Moisi.
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#4  "The word "quagmire" has popped up repeatedly when Afghanistan is discussed in Paris political circles"

Why do these words sound familiar?

Posted by: Frozen Al   2008-08-24 14:04  

#3  Would you invade WVa. and try to occupy it?

well, if we could get rid of all the Robert KKK Byrd names from any and all sundry facilities, and depose that lying traitorous POS Rockefeller, well then I'm all for a brutal occupation of W. Va.
Posted by: Frank G   2008-08-24 12:42  

#2  The French are beginning to understand the facts on the ground in Afghanistan. It is the West Virginia of South Asia. Land locked. Mountainous. Tough guys with little better to do than fight and sure not ready to be told what to do by lowlanders. Would you invade WVa. and try to occupy it?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-08-24 12:27  

#1  Great Title. This is the way I see it, even though they have an article for allience, most of the European expect NATO defense in Europe.

There's not enough men in Afghanistan yet to bring authority. We're depending on locals and young SF guys to be the eyes ordering airstrikes.

Even the largest army in the World like China have trouble controling an insurgency. Pakistan needs to be dealt with either diplomatically or coverty. Maybe that's what's been happening now with the political shakeups in Pakistan?

This season the Taliban have just moved up from the entire bottom half of afghanistan from pakistan, the US is sending more but what about the rest of NATO?

French soldiers can fight but the media influences the will of the politians.

I'm sure the shock of the loss of their country during WWII/Vietnam/Algeria makes them tred even softer in the world however they have a foriegn legion which should be there cleaning up shop with the rest of NATO, but they aren't yet.

The French debate resonates in Canada, which has lost 93 soldiers in Afghanistan since the war began. Canada agreed to keep its 2,500 troops in southern Kandahar province only on the condition -- partially met by France's new commitment -- that NATO deploy reinforcements.
Posted by: Pliny Sleash8027   2008-08-24 12:22  

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