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Obama: Russia, U.S. Should Not 'Charge Into' Other Countries
2008-08-22
LYNCHBURG, Virginia - Democrat Barack Obama scolded Russia again on Wednesday for invading another country's sovereign territory while adding a new twist: the United States, he said, should set a better example on that front, too.

The Illinois senator's opposition to the Iraq war, which his comment clearly referenced, is well known. But this was the first time the Democratic presidential candidate has made a comparison between the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Russia's recent military activity in Georgia.

"We've got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies," Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. "They can't charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point."

Foreign policy has become a dividing line in the race for the White House.

Obama favors a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq over 16 months, while John McCain, his Republican rival for president, opposes a timeline and says U.S. forces must stay to finish and win the war.

McCain, an Arizona senator, sought to highlight his foreign policy credentials during the Russia-Georgia crisis last week, giving a series of harsh statements directed at Moscow soon after the conflict began.

Obama, who was on vacation in Hawaii, followed suit with statements that became sharper over time.


WHAT?!?!
Posted by:Full Bosomed1072

#29  It is astounding that he is able to breathe.
Posted by: newc   2008-08-22 23:36  

#28  Besoeker,

That was pretty funny. After reading it, I found the following link on the internets: LINK

Quite a pedigree! The FDR version is funnier than heck :)

Posted by: mrp   2008-08-22 17:05  

#27  BO's best hope is to pick Biden, and defer all for pol questions to him.

New Labour, New Hair same old Blair speech.
Posted by: .5MT   2008-08-22 15:27  

#26  When I think about Zero I think about "The Handler" by Damon Knight.

http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/print?board.id=writingscifi&message.id=69&page=1&format=page
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-08-22 14:52  

#25  A PSALM from the FIRST BOOK OF DEMOCRAT

Obama Is My Shepherd, I Shall Not Want.
He Leadeth Me Beside Still Factories,
He Restoreth My Faith In The Republican Party,
He Guideth Me In The Paths Of Unemployment.

Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Bread Line, I Shall Not Go Hungry.
Obama Has Anointed My Income With Taxes,
My Expenses Runneth Over My Income,
Surely, Poverty And Hard Living Will Follow Me All The Days Of My Life.

The Democrats And I Will Live Forever In a Rented Room.

But I Am Glad I Am an American,
I Am Glad That I Am Free.
But I Wish I Was a Dog,
and Obama Was a Tree.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-22 13:59  

#24  You did notice he's an African American didn't you? What else is there?

I don't care if he's green and purple with yellow polka-dots, he's still an empty suit that can't tie his own shoes without help. God Himself will have to help us if he gets elected. Even Tonga could pull a snow job on Obamaramadingdong.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-08-22 13:39  

#23  even the most liberal mainstream candidates would at least try to look like they understood and appreciated traditional American interests,

That's above his pay scale.
Posted by: tipper   2008-08-22 13:13  

#22  How many field grade officers are we going to lose if this guy gets elected?
Posted by: Sherry   2008-08-22 12:58  

#21  
When OBama slips his handler's leash, he is incredibly stupid
Say rather, when Obama lets his mask slip his handlers wince.
Posted by: lotp   2008-08-22 12:05  

#20  When OBama slips his handler's leash, he is incredibly stupid.

And dangerously naive. If he wins, he is going to get a lot of people and a lot of Americans killed.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-22 12:02  

#19  Lots of people think so---but they are not running for US prez.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-08-22 11:54  

#18  bigjim-ky,

Sounds more like an easy rationalization by someone in the cracks of fault lines of a dying business. "See we're not bad we just are in the pay." So his self justification is the old punch line - we know what you are, we're just negotiating the price. Given around 90% of the media is registered to one political party, its not about money. If it were about money, the NYT, LAT, etc wouldn't have been pushing the crap they have for the last couple decades as their readership dropped like a lead balloon. The bottom line a long time ago would have adjusted their perspective.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-08-22 11:44  

#17  When OBama slips his handler's leash, he is incredibly stupid.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-22 11:42  

#16  Hey, maybe Barry could whack 'em on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper or something, huh?
Posted by: mojo   2008-08-22 11:37  

#15  Hows that 'willing a UN condimnation' thing going for ya neOphyte?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-08-22 11:33  

#14  My father was having a cocktail at the local bar where he lives in the Bay Area, CA , the other day and got into a conversation with a local newspaper editor. The guy basically told him that whoever has the biggest stash of money and spends the most on ads gets the press backing. Newspapers and TV stations are in business to make money and picking the right candidate can make or break a small local paper. This guy claims that it's ALL about money to most papers, they don't give a toss about politics, many of his employees are older guys who are conservative in their views and wouldn't normally support a dickweed like obama.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-08-22 11:31  

#13  How is it possible that this man can be considered electable by any serious person? Back when I was a Dem, even the most liberal mainstream candidates would at least try to look like they understood and appreciated traditional American interests, especially abroad. Am I idealizing the past when I say that?

You did notice he's an African American didn't you? What else is there?
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-08-22 10:27  

#12  How is it possible that this man can be considered electable by any serious person? Back when I was a Dem, even the most liberal mainstream candidates would at least try to look like they understood and appreciated traditional American interests, especially abroad. Am I idealizing the past when I say that?

evidently you dont remember 1972.


BO's best hope is to pick Biden, and defer all for pol questions to him.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-22 10:01  

#11  Things really don't go well for "The One" when he's not using a teleprompter.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-08-22 10:00  

#10  From Powerline:

"So our "charging into" Iraq--with dozens of allies, supported by a U.N. resolution, as a last resort after six months of build-up and negotiations, to unseat one of the cruelest dictators of modern times who had twice invaded neighboring states, was in violation of more than a dozen U.N. resolutions and was responsible for the deaths of something like two million people, who was shooting at American aircraft and had tried to assassinate a former President of the United States, in Obama's childish mind, was just like Russia's "charging into" Georgia, which resembles Saddam's Iraq in no respect. And, of course, we invaded a horrifying charnel-house so as to establish a democracy, whereas Russia invaded a peaceful democracy that it wants to re-incorporate into its empire."
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-08-22 09:55  

#9  Â“They canÂ’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”

So I guess this means your Pakistani plan was a load of shit, Barry?
Posted by: tu3031   2008-08-22 09:43  

#8  How is it possible that this man can be considered electable by any serious person? Back when I was a Dem, even the most liberal mainstream candidates would at least try to look like they understood and appreciated traditional American interests, especially abroad. Am I idealizing the past when I say that?

If BO doesn't get trounced in this election, I am going to be seriously worried about the American electorate. Here's hoping that the debates between him and McCain will make more clear to non-political junkies what seems so glaringly obvious to me.
Posted by: ryuge   2008-08-22 09:23  

#7  not a good strategy. Most middle americans who oppose the war, do so, I think, because they think it wasnt worth it for US. Not cause they think we commited aggression. Much like the middle american response to VN (im talking the response, not the strategic reality, so spare me a discussion of that). This wont play well with swing voters.

Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-22 09:17  

#6  Maybe Puttie will send the TEAM to Denver for the convention.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-22 08:54  

#5  while adding a new twist: the United States, he said, should set a better example on that front, too.

Ha, ha, ha, our Amerikanski kandidate! The Motherland thanks you Obama. I thank you, I thank you.
Posted by: Putin   2008-08-22 08:48  

#4  I want a Plier-check on Jimmuahs, just to be sure.
Posted by: .5MT   2008-08-22 08:19  

#3  tie for shit-eating grin. The One's seem whiter though. Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: Frank G   2008-08-22 08:16  

#2  If only we could do smilers and pollz and such:

Vote for best Teefs:
Jimmuah
Skinny Guy

Vote now before you go to work, else your cats will vote for you.
Posted by: .5MT   2008-08-22 08:12  

#1  because they're morally equivalent in the Empty One's eyes. What a putz. He really is a a marxist Carter
Posted by: Frank G   2008-08-22 07:53  

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