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| Russia accused of dropping cluster bombs on Georgian civilians |
| 2008-08-15 |
| Russian military aircraft have deployed controversial and indiscriminately deadly cluster bombs on civilian areas of Georgia according to an international rights group. Human Rights Watch, which is based in New York, said today that it has obtained evidence proving that the weapons, which were banned by more than 100 countries in May, have killed at least 11 people so far during the conflict in the Caucasus. Cluster bomb systems scatter small "bomblets" across a wide area and can prove deadly to civilians - particularly children - who pick up munitions which have failed to detonate on impact. The bombs effectively leave behind a trail of landmines. Human Rights Watch said Russian aircraft dropped RBK-250 cluster bombs, each containing 30 PTAB 2.5M submunitions or bomblets, on the town of Ruisi in the Kareli district of Georgia on August 12, 2008 killing three civilians and wounding five others. The organisation claims that on the same day a cluster strike in the centre of Gori killed at least eight civilians and injured dozens. The Dutch journalist Stan Storimans was among the dead. It would be the first known use of cluster bombs since Israeli planes used the weapons against Hezbollah in Lebanon two years ago. At a summit in Ireland earlier this year an agreement was reached to ban the use of the weapon by 107 countries. Russia, along with the US, China, Israel, India and Pakistan, refused to attend the convention, which expanded the limits imposed by the Arms Trade Treaty and landmine ban. Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of Russia's General Staff, denied today that the weapons had been used in Georgia: "We never use cluster bombs. There is no need to do so." Human Rights Watch researchers said they had carried out numerous interviews and examined photos of craters and video footage of the August 12 attack on Gori. They claim to have seen a photograph of nose cone of an RBK-250 bomb in Gori and video of more than two dozen simultaneous explosions at the time of the attack. Craters in Gori were also consistent with a cluster strike. Doctors at the two main hospitals in Tbilisi have described injuries to civilians hurt in the attack on Gori that they believed were consistent with cluster bombs. Keti Javakhishvili, 25, suffered massive trauma to her liver, stomach, and intestines, as well as hemorrhagic shock. Two other victims sustained fragment wounds to their legs and abdominal regions. All the wounds were consistent with those caused by submunitions from cluster bombs. Marc Garlasco, senior military analyst at Human Rights Watch said: "Cluster bombs are indiscriminate killers that most nations have agreed to outlaw. Russia's use of this weapon is not only deadly to civilians, but also an insult to international efforts to avoid a global humanitarian disaster of the kind caused by landmines." |
| Posted by:john frum |
| #6 I bet there's a lot of rethinking on this one and a reevaluation period causing a halt in the process. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-08-15 19:24 |
| #5 the human rights "community" has been making a big deal of certian weapons systems lately. It started with antipersonall land mines, with SOME justification, as they have nasty post-conflict impacts - the soldiers they were legitimately used against are long gone, and they keep maiming civies for years after. I agree that the full ban went too far and ignored technical fixes, but thats where we are. from 2001 on they got fixated on cluster bombs as being similar to land mines. I agree that the focus SHOULD be on targeting. But given where the world is, I think its fully just that Russia, which I cant recall objecting to attacks on Israel for using cluster bombs in Lebanon, or on the US for using them in Afghanistan, should be hoisted on this petard. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2008-08-15 12:30 |
| #4 After watching an impressive display of a pattern of many 500 -lb Rockeye being deployed from a section of A-6s many years ago, cluster bombs do put the hurt on who or whatever is underneath them. great for real targets, but not so great against civilians. |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2008-08-15 12:26 |
| #3 I agree with Mitch. Clusterbombs aren't the problem, the targetting of civilians is the problem. Even if they were dropping ten-ton bags of flowers on the civilians it would be a problem. Bit of backhanded unAmericanism in here to make it more palatable to the lefties? |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-08-15 12:15 |
| #2 As a citizen of a country that uses cluster bombs, what can I say? The russians don't seem to even try to limit civilian casualties, in fact, to he casual observer it seems that they are just as happy to kill civilians as soldiers in this case. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2008-08-15 09:39 |
| #1 As sympathetic as I am to the Georgians, this is balls. Either tag them for attacking civilians, or don't. This blaming of specific tools is nonsense. You don't get any points for gunning down grandma with cannon fire instead of burning her down with napalm. |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2008-08-15 09:32 |