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Iraq
U.S. Cities Are Just As Dangerous As Iraq...Press Silent
2008-07-29
The Iraqi government reported that during 2006, a total of 16,273 soldiers, police officers, and civilians were murdered in that country. In 2007, a total of 16,425 murders took place in the United States. While the deaths of U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq as well as the murder of innocent civilians in that country receive unprecedented media attention, our own press all but ignores the violence now becoming just a fact of life in our own country.
I sympathize with the author's point of view, but we've also got ten times the population of Iraq. That makes Iraq's death rate ten times ours.
While the majority of Iraqi homicides were the result of that nation's many Muslim factions fighting one another for political control, a large number of U.S. murders can be attributed to drugs and gang violence. Considering that sad comparison, Americans could easily face a more bleak future than will the Iraqis.

While the news media is very quick to announce the deaths of U.S. troops serving in Iraq, they simply ignore the rising violence in this country. We have lost 4,114 soldiers since the start of the Iraq War in March of 2003. During that same time period, more than 89,000 Americans have fallen victim to murder inside the borders of their own country (Figures for the first half of 2008 are based on the number of murders occurring in major cities and past FBI statistics).

While we are constantly reminded of the number of the death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq, it pales in comparison to the annual number of U.S. murders. The loss of every soldier is certainly a tragedy and represents a life-changing loss to that soldier's family. However, those 4,114 families can take some comfort in the fact that their loved-one died in the service of his country and was in control of his own destiny. In contrast, tens of thousands of American families can find no comfort because their loved-one died a senseless death at the hands of a murderer...For them there will be no taps, no folded flag, no heroic sacrifice, only a violent and untimely death.

Since the start of the Iraq War, U.S. news casts have been filled with images of a violent Iraq. However, the press has failed to report that many of our own cities have become lawless war zones. Consider the following number of murders in major U.S. cities which occurred in 2007 alone:

-Philadelphia...394

-Chicago...442

-New York...494

-Baltimore...282

-New Orleans...209

On April 27, 2007, New Orleans recorded its 62nd murder of the year. At that time, the city's population was 223,000. On that same day, Iraq had recorded 6,523 murders for the year in a country with a population of 29,267,000. Analysis of those figures gives New Orleans a murder rate of 1 in every 3,597 people, while the murder rate for Iraq is much lower with 1 in every 4,486 people...So where is the non-stop media attention and protests for those being slaughtered in New Orleans?

We have heard President Bush as well as administration officials often justify our involvement in Iraq by telling us that our troops are saving Iraqi citizens from Saddam's infamous 'rape rooms.' Though Bush may have made saving Iraqi women from rape a priority, he has never even commented on the large number of American women raped in this country annually. In 2005 alone, 92,837 rapes were reported in the U.S. Considering that rape is an incredibly under-reported crime, is much higher ( Most experts believe that only about 1 in 10 rapes are reported, the actual number occurring in this country is believed to be closer to 920,000).

The press and our politicians do not like to talk about sobering U.S. crime statistics for a number of reasons. The mainstream press does not like to delve too deeply into the subject due to the fact that minorities commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Politicians tend to shy away from the subject for that same reason, but also because high crime rates make elected officials appear useless and ineffectual. In the case of President Bush, his refusal to defend the U.S.-Mexican border has left many Americans victims of violent crimes at the hands of illegal aliens. In fact, illegal aliens now account for 29 percent of this nation's prison population.

The reasons why someone turns to a life of crime are numerous, but a child without two parents who lives at or below the poverty level, is much more likely to go to prison than to college. With out-of-wedlock births sky-rocketing, a worsening economy, and illegal aliens (and drug gangs) continuing to stream across the border, we can expect the violence in our beleaguered cities to continue to unabated.

Whether you are killed by a suicide bomber in Iraq or a drug dealer in the United States, dead is dead.
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#13  BP,

The local authorities appear to be part of the problem, not the solution.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-07-29 19:22  

#12  Sounds like you need a surge back in Atlanta!
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-07-29 18:24  

#11  So a more accurate statement might be in order. It looks like most of the murders in the U.S. take place in just a few cities. They may actually be as dangerous, maybe more, than Iraq. 98% of the geographical area of the U.S. is pretty damned safe. It's those, urban jungles if you will, that are the problem.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-07-29 18:24  

#10  Bill Roggio has written an an article on just this subject. The readers comments go into more detail.

Iraq before the invasion had a per capita murder rate of 1 per million per day (about the same as LA and NYC during the crack wars). This was before the insurgency, and was just the "background noise" of crime in Iraqi society.

In the last several months, Iraq has had a murder rate less than before OIF. This means, not only are AQI and JAM smashed, but progress is being made against the many criminal gangs in Iraqi society.

Baghdad currently has a murder rate similar to Atlanta, which makes it more violent than some American cities like Detroit and Baltimore.

The most dangerous place in Iraq right now is Diyala, which is approximately 4 times as dangerous as Baghdad. Once Diyala is cleaned up, Iraq will be the safest it's been for a very long time.
Posted by: Frozen Al   2008-07-29 15:43  

#9  Mardi Gras moving to Kurdistan?
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-07-29 13:25  

#8  Wow, New Orleans has a murder rate thats higher than Iraq overall. That includes the kurdish areas and other sections of Iraq that are safer.

How about compare the most dangerous cities in Iraq to the most dangerous in the US? Or just compare national rates as Big Jim has done.

You dont NEED to say that Iraq is no more dangerous than the US to make the case that the surge was right and this is not a quagmire. Saying silly things just sets one up for attacks from the left, and distracts from real accomplishments. Why set up a straw man?
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-07-29 13:12  

#7  also, a pretty substantial percentage of murder victims are themselves convicted felons.

That I did not know, mhw. It does rather change things, doesn't it?

Figures don't lie.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics, Bobby dear. But I s'pose that technically it isn't the figures themselves that are doing the misleading.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-07-29 12:57  

#6  10X more dangerous overall, but not the case for certain cities - Analysis of those figures gives New Orleans a murder rate of 1 in every 3,597 people, while the murder rate for Iraq is much lower with 1 in every 4,486 people.

Figures don't lie.
Posted by: Bobby   2008-07-29 12:52  

#5  Big Jim: What percentage of the US murders are insurgents killing for political reasons? What percentage of Iraqi deaths are gang-bangers fighting for drug turf?
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-07-29 12:50  

#4  I think the article hits it's mark. I'll take it a step further. Of those US cities listed, how many of them have gun control? hmmmmmm
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2008-07-29 12:40  

#3  "...The mainstream press does not like to delve too deeply into the subject due to the fact that minorities commit a disproportionate amount of crime."

in addition minorities are disproportionately the victims of violent crime

also, a pretty substantial percentage of murder victims are themselves convicted felons.
Posted by: mhw   2008-07-29 12:38  

#2  The raw numbers may be about the same, but Iraq is about 1/10th the pop. of the U.S.
So that makes it about 10X more dangerous.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-07-29 12:29  

#1  Like nude dancing and flag burning, homicide is a form of "protected speech" in American inner cities - as long as the perps and vics are from the "proper" aggreived social groups, peeps just looking for "respect." That's the liberal outlook, anyway...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2008-07-29 11:29  

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