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| Syria-Lebanon-Iran |
| Iranian S-300s |
| 2008-07-26 |
| Israel has been preparing to deal with the Iranian S-300s, including practicing against S-300s operated by the Greek armed forces. The S-300 has never had any combat experience, although it looks good on paper. Russia has done a lot of realistic testing of the S-300, but never had it confront a Western air force possessing equipment designed to defeat the Russian system. So developments in Iran are being watched closely by air defense experts around the globe. |
| Posted by:3dc |
| #3 #1 ION CHINESE MIL FORUM > [IIRC] THE SU-34 CAN TAKE ON AND DEFEAT THE RAPTOR!? Maybe at odds of 40-1, but anything less would be a disaster for the Chinese. As they'll learn, if they're not careful. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2008-07-26 20:54 |
| #2 Joe, Not a chance in hell. The Su-34 is 1980's technology. It first flew in 1990. It has the same engines as the Su-27 with a maximum speed of Mach 1.8. It's a 2-seat (in a highly unusual side-by-side arrangement and the pressurized (to 10 thousand meters) cabin is large enough to allow the crew to stand up and move around during large missions and there is a small toilet and galley reportedly between the seats) dedicated fighter-bomber intended to replace the Su-24. So far, the Russians themselves have only purchased 2 of the beasts and only 70 are slated for deployment by 2015 with possibly 200 in service by 2020. It has an impressive weapons loadout, but is primarily intended to be a strike bomber, not an air-to-air fighter. It's cockpit arrangement is a "glass cockpit" design and its has some impressive avionics, a rearward facing radar, and an infrared missile detection system. Maximum range w/3 inflight refuelings is about 14 thousand km, supposedly, 4 thousand unrefueled. In air-to-air combat against the Raptor the Su-34 is dog meat. But, let the Chinese continue to believe what they want to. It'll make their pilots that much more overconfident and that's exactly the sort of thing US pilots love. |
| Posted by: FOTSGreg 2008-07-26 15:03 |
| #1 ION CHINESE MIL FORUM > [IIRC] THE SU-34 CAN TAKE ON AND DEFEAT THE RAPTOR!? |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2008-07-26 00:55 |