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Fifth Column
Winter Soldiers 2.2 - The Northwest
2008-06-02
One former soldier recounted an interrogation of an Iraqi by his fellow combatants so brutal he likened it to "a frat house gang rape."

Another was still troubled not by his close brushes with death, but by the times he nearly shot innocent Iraqi civilians.

And a third was exasperated and puzzled by being asked to fulfill what he called "ridiculous" orders to harass Iraqi residents and was discouraged from helping those in distress.

He called the war "immoral and absurd."

All came together Saturday afternoon at Seattle's Town Hall to share their troubling and sometimes graphic war stories in the hopes that they will inspire and motivate a largely silent public to call for an end to the military occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

In a counterpoint to calls to continue the occupation, nearly a dozen U.S. soldiers, a military wife, the mother of a soldier and a doctor treating veterans with psychiatric problems told their anti-war stories to a respectful audience that filled the hall.

Former Army Sgt. Joshua Simpson served in Mosul with an intelligence team trying to get information about insurgent forces attacking Americans.

"Ninety-five percent of the people we arrested had nothing to do with the insurgency, but we were still told to interrogate them," Simpson told the crowd.

He'd scream and yell at the prisoners, sometimes reducing them to tears or self-abuse such as hitting their heads repeatedly against the wall. He saw prisoners horribly bruised and bloodied by Iraqi interrogators. He wants the war to end.

"We need to support the troops who refuse to fight," Simpson said.

The event was organized by the nonprofit Iraq Veterans Against the War, which is working for an immediate end to the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, the payment of reparations to the Iraqi and Afghan people for harm caused in the wars, and full funding for the Veterans Health Administration to better provide medical care for returning veterans.

There didn't appear to be any counterprotesters at Saturday's Town Hall event, which was called Northwest Winter Soldier. It was modeled on the first Winter Soldier protest held in 1971 in opposition to the Vietnam War and also organized by veterans.

After the speakers finished, a march was scheduled through downtown.

The soldiers called on U.S. lawmakers to cut funding and force the Bush administration to stop what they saw as an unjust, unwarranted war.

"The longer we're over there," said Joshua Farris, a former Army specialist in Iraq, "the more it will inflame the violence when we leave."

Many said they went to Iraq hoping to help civilians, but found that often wasn't the case. U.S. troops frequently referred to all Iraqis and Middle Easterners as "hajji," an ethnic slur. In medical units, they became "range balls," meaning they were like the golf balls hit on driving ranges that are of low value and that you don't mind losing.

The veterans called for better medical support for returning soldiers, saying they'd see friends suffering from untreated post-traumatic stress, leading to suicide, domestic violence and divorce.

"Where is our government when they need them the most?" asked Tracy Malzan, who spoke along with her husband, Seth, who served as an Army sergeant. "We must talk about these issues every day ... until every service member comes home."
Posted by:Anonymoose

#5  I suspect any that are legit were in Iraq in the first year or so.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-06-02 19:27  

#4  Journalists don't need to check anymore. When they say the right things its magically true.

It's only those nasty bloggers who insist on checking so-called facts etc.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-06-02 16:25  

#3  Anybody in Kookooland Seattle bother to check to see how many of these "soldiers" actually were in our military, and, if they were, how many of them were actually in Iraq?

Thought not.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-06-02 16:10  

#2  How about Muji?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-06-02 15:32  

#1  "hajji," an ethnic slur

I have been bothered by this usage myself, but NOT because it is an ethnic slur, because it is NOT. Literally it is a term of respect, given to a Muslim who has made the pilgramage to Mecca. The disrespect is in the demeaning of the term by using it to refer to non-deserving people.
Posted by: Menhadden Snogum6713   2008-06-02 15:02  

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