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Thinking the unthinkable: Who follows Ted Kennedy
2008-05-22
The vultures are circling. Discreetly, of course...
WASHINGTON - People in Massachusetts suddenly are thinking the unthinkable: Who possibly could succeed Sen. Edward Kennedy, patriarch of the famed political family that has dominated the state for more than four decades? The news about Kennedy's cancerous brain tumor has led to quiet speculation about whether he may try to handpick a successor, possibly paving the way for a relative to take over his seat.
Whether? Possibly? Uh-huh...
The prospect of Kennedy's eventual departure also has touched off a scramble involving Massachusetts congressmen and others.
Stand back! It's a Hack Frenzy!!!
Kennedy, 76, is not up for re-election until 2012. But his medical condition has people wondering if he might resign before then or decline to run for another term.
Or...well, nevermind.
Given Kennedy's stature in the Democratic-dominated state, it's a sensitive topic that few in politics are willing to talk about publicly. "There will be great respect and delicacy, of course," said Tufts University political science professor Jeffrey Berry.
That should be "or else", perfesser..
Over the years, the Kennedys have not shied away from grooming family members for office.
Nooooooo! When did this happen!
In 1962, Kennedy won the Senate seat that his brother, John, held before winning the presidency in 1960. The Kennedys helped arrange the appointment of John's old roommate, Benjamin A. Smith, to the seat until Edward Kennedy turned 30 and was legally old enough to run for the Senate. Kennedy has held the seat ever since.
He was elected the day my wife was born.
With the senator's health now in question, Kennedy's nephew, former Rep. Joseph Kennedy II, D-Mass., is seen as a possible heir. He is sitting on about $2 million in leftover campaign funds.
...and whatever his "friends from Venezuela" might be able to "contribute".
But the younger Kennedy, who provides low-cost heating oil to the poor through Boston-based Citizens Energy Corp., has balked at running for governor in recent years and shows scant interest in jumping back into politics.
600G's for basically making one commercial a year. Joe pulls on the coveralls and lugs a hose up to some old lady's three decker and waves to her through the window while he pumps her oil. No wonder it's a "non-profit". I wouldn't be going anywhere either.
There is the possibility one of the senator's sons, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I.,
In this case, the "D' stands for "Doofus".
or Edward Kennedy Jr., could seek their father's seat. Kennedy's wife, Vicki, has been mentioned, too. There are other Kennedys, too, who could decide to run.
The son's low key. Ya don't hear much about him. Don't know if he'd be interested. The wife? Who knows. I read that's who Kennedy wants to get it.
Brown University political science professor Wendy Schiller, who studies Congress, doubts that a family member will succeed the senator, given the faded Kennedy mystique."The days when you could do that easily without any backlash — those days are gone," she said.
And the old man, probably one of the most evil bastards America has ever produced, isn't around anymore to smooth out the sharp edges.
When the Kennedys maneuvered to win Edward Kennedy his Senate seat four decades ago, the family was intent on building a political dynasty and the Senate was seen as a launching pad for the White House, Schiller said. "I don't see that necessarily happening with any of the second-generation Kennedys now," she said. "Kennedys can be effective in all sorts of arenas. They don't necessarily have to go to the Senate now." Beyond the Kennedy clan, Massachusetts boasts a lengthy list of potential candidates from both parties:
...and an impressive list of lifelong liberal hacks it is.
Possible Democrats include Gov. Deval Patrick, Martha Coakley, the state's attorney general; Rep. Edward J. Markey; Rep. Barney Frank; Rep. Stephen Lynch; Rep. Michael Capuano; and Rep. James McGovern. Former Rep. Martin Meehan, who resigned his seat to become chancellor of the University of Massachusetts-Lowell last year, has $4.8 million in leftover campaign funds.
I'm surprised Marty didn't hang himself in his nice office up at UMASS-Lowell when he found out. If you'd have just hung on for another few months, Marty, the dream was there...
Among the potential GOP candidates are former Massachusetts Govs. Mitt Romney and William Weld; former Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey; and former White House chief of staff Andrew Card. Romney's bid to unseat Kennedy in 1994 failed.
Romney? Maybe. The rest? Forget it.
Unlike most states, Kennedy's successor would be chosen by a special election, not the governor. State law requires a special election for the seat no sooner than 145 days and no later than 160 days after a vacancy occurs. The law bans an interim appointee. The law was changed in 2004, when Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry became the Democratic presidential nominee and Romney was governor. Before the change, the governor would have appointed a replacement to serve until the next general election. That would have created the opportunity to install a fellow Republican in office, a move Democrats who control the state Legislature wanted to block.
Heh...heh...heh. Well, boys, didn't that come back and bite you in the ass. Something else you can blame on Kerry.
Posted by:tu3031

#26  tu: to quote Spenser, P.I. - "you gimlet-eyed devil"
Posted by: Frank G   2008-05-22 23:16  

#25  Wasn't meant as a knock, doc. I just didn't wanna go there.
Let's see who's mentioned here:

The Family
First off, they don't have the juice around here that they used to. A lot of the hardcore worshipers have died off, and a lot of the younger generation's baggage isn't appreciated. Patrick's seen as dumber then a bag of dirt, Joe as a spoiled rich kid. I don't think Teddy Jr. has the fire for it and neither does the daughter, plus they have their own health issues, and the trying to get the mother committed business last year turned a lot of people off.
The wife? Nobody outside of the insiders knows a lot about her, but she probably does have the best shot and I'm sure that the family publicity arm (AKA the Boston Globe) will do a fine job of introducing her to the general public. Longshot from way way way out in left field? Caroline. She's very close to him and if he leaned on her with the "for the good of the family" thing who knows. And she would be very, very tough to beat.

The Dems:
Gov. Deval Patrick: A year and a half in and the House Speaker meets him on the state house steps every morning, beats him up, and takes his lunch money. Outside of helping to railroad gay marriage through, he's accomplished nothing. Even the moonbats that voted him in are amazed how out of touch and ineffective he is. He'd get smoked in an election just as payback. Praying that his buddy Barack gets elected and gets him the hell outta here. Maybe he could be his limo driver.
Martha Coakley, AG: The roof falls in on the Big Dig and kills somebody and does she go after Bechtel? No. She goes after some glue company. Minor league, which makes her a step up from her predecessor and his seeing eye dog. No chance.
Ed Markey: Grandstand Eddie. Congressional lifer. His address in "the district" is his bedroom at his mother's house in Malden. Doubt he could find it on a map. If he ran, he'd be exposed for the unctuous hack he is.
Barney Frank: I doubt he'll run. Say what you want about him, he's an extremely smart guy. And he knows that outside of his district, he's too liberal to be elected even in this state.
Steve Lynch: My congressman. Most conservative of the bunch. Southie guy. Former head of the Ironworkers union. Once arrested in his younger days for beating up an Iranian trying to burn a flag. Hasn't completely drank the Kool Aid since he's been down there. My darkhorse.
Mike Capuano: Has Tip O'Neill's old seat. Hasn't done much with it. Has the ego but don't think he's got the credentials. He should save his money.
Jim McGovern: Fidel would vote for him. So would Hugo. A nonentity trying to move up to a nobody. No chance.
Marty Meehan: Mr. Bad Timing. His lifelong dream. And he threw it all away for a hack job at UMASS-Lowell. Marty, you're where you belong. Be happy.

The Republicans
Mitt Romney: Depends on whether McCain offers him the vice presidency. If not, he could run and, believe it or not, he could win.
William Weld: Unfortunately, William Weld has gone insane.
Kerry Healey: Sorry. She couldn't even beat Deval.
Andy Card: He bears the Mark of Bush. No chance.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-05-22 22:39  

#24  Weld might stand a chance. But as an "R", he'd be more like Snowe.

If Deval Patrick is the Dem nominee, Romney oughta run because he'd slaughter him, and set himself up for a solid run (a'la Hillary in NY) at the presidency in a few years.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-05-22 22:11  

#23  he'll probably be mentally incompetent (in the legal sense) and unable to serve within a year or so

Hasn't stopped Byrd or Ginsberg for that matter. The left plays on the old 2d Amendment credo - You can have this POWER when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-05-22 21:24  

#22  #20 I did the vulture, and yes, I'm that cold.
Posted by: Steve White


with his wife-successor weaseling, he deserves it.
Posted by: Frank G   2008-05-22 20:17  

#21  Oncologist?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-05-22 20:16  

#20  I did the vulture, and yes, I'm that cold.
Posted by: Steve White   2008-05-22 19:24  

#19  Not meaning to be cold about it, but with the kind of cancer he's got, he won't live long enough to serve out his term, and he'll probably be mentally incompetent (in the legal sense) and unable to serve within a year or so. He should resign well before then, for his own good. If you've only got a few months, you should spend it with your family and loved ones, not tussling over supplemental appropriations.
Posted by: Mike   2008-05-22 18:58  

#18  In the unlikely event that Teddy decides to do the right thing and save the people of Massachusetts millions of bucks, he'll have to step down between May 28th and June 12th for the special election to occur during the fall general election.

Then again, it's just taxpayer's money. Never mind.
Posted by: Biff Wellington   2008-05-22 18:22  

#17  I kinda like the "give the seat to the wife" idea. It gives the Mass. Senate seat the flavor of a hereditary feudal barony. A somewhat drunken flavor, but who are we to judge?
Posted by: SteveS   2008-05-22 18:14  

#16  The vulture's not mine. I'm not even that cold...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-05-22 17:09  

#15  Nicely inlined, tu. And the vulture is a nice touch.
Posted by: Seafarious   2008-05-22 17:08  

#14  Having lived several years in Massachusetts, including during Romney's pathetic 1996 Sentate campaign against Ted, I would say that much of the Kennedy sheen has worn off. Would be surprised if anything short of a back room deus ex machina could deliver the seat to his Misses. So, that is exactly what I expect him to try.
Posted by: Iblis   2008-05-22 17:00  

#13  Several important factors: first of all, Joe Kennedy's ill-gotten gains have been greatly dissipated, and are being split by about 30 members of their extended family. As a group, they may only have $20-30M left. They have been selling off assets for years because of it.

Second, while the Kennedy name was good, they were not beloved by the outside-of-the-clique Democrats, who have no problem seeing the dynasty come to an end.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-05-22 16:15  

#12  Oh, he'll definitely die in the seat. But after...

NY Daily News

Ted Kennedy: I'd like wife to take seat

Ted Kennedy has made clear to confidants that when his time is up, he wants his Senate seat to stay in the family - with his wife, Vicki. Multiple sources in Massachusetts with close ties to the liberal lion say his wife of 16 years has long been his choice to continue carrying the family flame in the Senate. Kennedy won the seat in 1962; his brother John held it from 1953 to 1960. "There's no question that he'd like Vicki to continue in his seat," said one Massachusetts Democrat with ties to the Camelot clan who spoke to Kennedy recently, before his health crisis. "She's smart, and smart politically."

The 54-year-old Victoria Reggie Kennedy, a former hotshot Washington lawyer, is a Louisiana native and the daughter of a politically active judge. She was hailed for holding the family together when John F. Kennedy Jr. was killed in a plane crash in 1999.

By favoring his wife, Kennedy, 76, is bypassing his late brother Robert Kennedy's eldest son, Joe, a former congressman. Joe Kennedy has been maligned publicly for a messy divorce and close ties with Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez, who assists his Boston-based fuel company for the poor.

Under current Massachusetts law, his successor for the rest of his term, which ends in 2012, would be picked by special election. State rules that allowed the governor to pick a temporary replacement were changed in 2004 when John Kerry was the presidential nominee and the Democratic state legislature feared then-GOP Gov. Mitt Romney would appoint a fellow Republican if Kerry won.

Political pros, however, say a dying Kennedy's endorsement of Vicki would likely carry enormous weight with state voters.

It's not yet clear how long he will stay in the Senate while battling a usually fatal cancer.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-05-22 15:40  

#11  Did you hear Robert Byrd's senile babbling in the Senate the other day? What difference is this than letting Chappaquiddick Ted stay in the Senate?

You're right, tu3031, the vultures are circling for their piece of American Taxpayer Action.

As far as a successor for Ted's slot, we have had enough of the Kennedy experience with Ted and Joe III. The country cannot afford any more like them.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2008-05-22 15:38  

#10  Hand picking his successor, probably his wife.

Ahh. A new way to do politics, change we can believe in.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-05-22 15:33  

#9  Kennedy, 76, is not up for re-election until 2012. But his medical condition has people wondering if he might resign before then or decline to run for another term.


Hell no, he will hang on to the very end, it's a Kennedy thing.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-05-22 15:14  

#8  Some of the wiseasses I work with have suggested that Kerry run for it...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-05-22 14:15  

#7  Of course, the state legislature could always change the law back to allow the governor to appoint a successor now the governor is a Democrat as Mother Nature intended. Or they could just be open about it and allow Kennedy to name his hand picked successor.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-05-22 14:09  

#6  How about running a bucket of Lard?
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-05-22 14:03  

#5  yeah, "Patches" Kennedy
Posted by: Frank G   2008-05-22 14:01  

#4  Isn't Patrick the one who crashed a car -- drunkenly

Actually, it was driving while Ambiened.
Posted by: Beavis   2008-05-22 13:47  

#3  Kennedy's successor would be chosen by a special election

Yeah, just like the Saddam election, or the Hugo election, or the Zimbabwe election. It's all show for the machine to con the people into sticking them with who they want. Like the old religious ceremonies to give the recipient all a vale of legitimacy. Show, theater, smoke and mirrors.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-05-22 13:42  

#2  That would be him.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-05-22 13:34  

#1  Isn't Patrick the one who crashed a car -- drunkenly, but is there any other way for a Kennedy -- into the Capitol steps at 3 am and claimed that he was on his way to a House session?
Posted by: Steve White   2008-05-22 13:31  

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