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| China-Japan-Koreas |
| Is this a Chinese UH-60? (Black Hawk)? |
| 2008-05-15 |
| Does anyone know if we sold China UH-60's or is this a great reverse engineering reproduction? Thanks. |
| Posted by:Yosemite Sam |
| #15 Yeah, enforcement started to fall off in '90s ... now, who was in charge of state during that timeframe ;) |
| Posted by: bombay 2008-05-15 20:40 |
| #14 I was program manager for some overseas deliveries in the late 1980s, bombay, and ITAR enforcement was pretty strong on our stuff (software). Despite State Dept's best efforts ..... |
| Posted by: lotp 2008-05-15 18:48 |
| #13 Usn, I don't think they were enforcing itar as strong back then, and if so, the age old discussion of what constitutes technical data probably would have come up. I'd venture we did share the info with Japan back then. But who knows. |
| Posted by: bombay on bb 2008-05-15 18:21 |
| #12 re: the maintenace question: in 1996 during a RIMPAC exercise, a Japanese S-60 variant landed at Pearl harbor and no sooner got weight on wheels than the rotor head came apart. Shed parts all over everywhere. Everybody got out. Engineering investigation showed a flaw in a forging that also affected other aircraft. the squadron i was with had 3 down for the flaw. wonder if that information was shared ( since ITAR restricts data transmission) or if there have been losses due to that problem??? |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2008-05-15 14:19 |
| #11 FYI, they are probably being replaced as the hours on the engines and airframes approach retirement numbers. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-05-15 13:10 |
| #10 Sold them the S-70C (non-militarized BH) in the mid 80's apparently as a counterweight to the Soviets. They are probably cloning parts, since the military hardware sales to them have been restricted form 1989 onward. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-05-15 13:08 |
| #9 Thanks for the answer! |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2008-05-15 12:59 |
| #8 Are they using the english language on such a broad scale now ? According to this month's National Geographic, yes, they are. All school children are required to study English. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2008-05-15 12:12 |
| #7 if we didn't sell it too them they sure do know how too copy everything else |
| Posted by: sinse 2008-05-15 11:07 |
| #6 LH92208 ??? Are they using the english language on such a broad scale now ? Numbering their helos with western letters and numbers ? I wouldn't doubt it, there is much to begained by speaking the international business language. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2008-05-15 10:52 |
| #5 When you want the very best... I'd just like to see the maintenance program to keep them viable. It's not like its a cultural, organizational given that good maintenance goes with good equipment. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-05-15 10:06 |
| #4 Story Photos |
| Posted by: ed 2008-05-15 09:34 |
| #3 yes to which answer? |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2008-05-15 09:33 |
| #2 Yes. |
| Posted by: ed 2008-05-15 09:26 |
| #1 This should have been filed under "China" not WoT. |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2008-05-15 09:22 |