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Supreme Court appears likely to back voter ID law
2008-01-10
A conservative majority of the Supreme Court appeared ready Wednesday to support an Indiana law requiring voters to show photo identification, despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote. At issue is whether state laws designed to stem voter fraud would disenfranchise large numbers of Americans who might lack proper identification -- many of them elderly, poor or minority voters.

In what has become a highly partisan legal and political fight, the justices wrestled with a balancing test of sorts to ensure both state and individual interests were addressed.

Civil rights activists and the state Democratic Party complain Indiana's law is the most restrictive in the nation. "The real question is, does it disenfranchise anyone?" Todd Rokita, Indiana secretary of state told CNN. "After six elections in the state of Indiana, the answer has been no. ... That's why the opponents to this keep losing in court."

State officials claim that voter turnout actually has increased 2 percent since the law took effect. But Rokita concedes the state has never presented a case of "voter impersonation," which the law was designed to safeguard against.

Justice Samuel Alito spoke for many of his colleagues, wondering how they should rule in the absence of any clear evidence supporting either side. "The problem I have is, where do you draw the line?" he said. "There is nothing to quantify the extent of the problem or the extent of the burden."

Among those cited by Democrats is Mary-Jo Criswell, a 71-year-old Indianapolis Democrat, who could not vote last November because she had no driver's license or valid passport. She previously had used a private bank-issued card with her photo when voting. The former precinct committeewoman had difficulty rebuilding an identity trail, and still does not have a valid photo ID. Criswell said in an affidavit she felt intimidated by the burdensome bureaucracy she claims is needed to vote.
Posted by:Fred

#17  Chicago and Cook County Illinois, a unique area of our nation where the DEAD are still permitted to remain active in politics.
In King County, Washington not only the dead, but Imanginary [Democrat] Friends can vote!
Posted by: CrazyFool   2008-01-10 18:07  

#16  matricula consular has a photo so they shouldn't complain too much.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2008-01-10 17:47  

#15  Heck, in Missouri you can even get a dead man elected Senator.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-01-10 16:37  

#14  "Chicago and Cook County Illinois, a unique area of our nation where the DEAD are still permitted to remain active in politics."

Not unique. Not even unusual.
Posted by: Iblis   2008-01-10 14:23  

#13  Chicago and Cook County Illinois, a unique area of our nation where the DEAD are still permitted to remain active in politics.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-01-10 14:02  

#12  It's impossible for long dead voters in and around Chicago still on the rolls to get an ID, they will be disenfranchised!
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-01-10 13:23  

#11  This is good, but with so many holes in the dike plugging this one won't change much. Unfortunately. The only real solution is to abolish the secret ballot. Once you make the results auditable it becomes extremely difficult to cheat. Otherwise there is always going to be a black box somewhere and that black box will be your point of failure.
Posted by: Iblis   2008-01-10 12:20  

#10  I wonder, if the law is upheld and you do need an ID, if a "sanctuary" state claims you don't need an ID to vote if the results will be sued for invalidation?
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-01-10 09:57  

#9  Â“Strange. If a person has to show ID to buy cigarettes or alcohol, why shouldn't they have to show ID to vote?”

gorb, Your point goes to the very relevant argument about the relatively small number of citizens that could possibly experience some form of “disenfranchisement” as a result of the ID requirement. However, purchasing booze and cigs is not a constitutionally protected Right. Participation in free and fair elections is. IMO, a better analogy would be the requirement of positive identification to purchase a gun.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2008-01-10 09:49  

#8  Glenmore:Intimidated by government officials? Then I guess you don't apply for welfare either, right?

Wicked! That'll send most of the doubters packing!

My thought is that paranoid people shouldn't be voting anyway!
Posted by: gorb   2008-01-10 09:26  

#7  Intimidated by government officials? Then I guess you don't apply for welfare either, right?
LOL - great catch Glenmore. I hadn't thought of that angle, but it's right on.
Posted by: Spot   2008-01-10 09:24  

#6  Either way it goes, the credibility of elections will be damaged in some people's eyes. If you DON'T require ID, I have doubts about the election, but if you DO require ID, a different group actually believes deserving voters will be prohibited or deterred from voting.
Don't have a Drivers Lisence? No problem, here's a State Photo ID.
Can't afford a fee? No problem, it's free.
Can't get down to the Government Office? No problem, we'll come to you.
Intimidated by government officials? Then I guess you don't apply for welfare either, right?
Posted by: Glenmore   2008-01-10 08:30  

#5  I love this idea and can't wait to see the Donk voting base dry up.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2008-01-10 08:16  

#4  NO integrity of the vote, NO republic.

What the idgits don't grasp is that consent is not the vote. Consent is the willingness to give that last full measure of devotion to protect the nation and society. If you demonstrate that such sacrifice is misplaced by corrupting the process, then the whole house comes down with no one to defend it. The fools think they'll be the one's left in charge. History is not kind to fools.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-01-10 08:11  

#3  FYI, one of the people the vote fraud enablers Liberals use as an aexample of the ID law turns out to be registered to vote in Indiana AND Florida, and is claiming homstead tax exemptions in BOTH places. So the law works - she should NOT have been able to vote because she was illegally registered.

You can check out the news article about Faye Buis-Ewing for yourself.

Kinda sucks to have one of the peopl eyou cits in defense of your case turn out to be breaking the law, and the law you oppose actually worked to prevent her from voting illegally.

Heh.

Posted by: OldSpook   2008-01-10 06:57  

#2  Strange. If a person has to show ID to buy cigarettes or alcohol, why shouldn't they have to show ID to vote? At least with cigarettes and alcohol the effects are relatively limited. With successful voter fraud, it affects everyone.

And ditto what Besoeker said. If the Dems are whining about this, I'm for it. I'll bet a majority of voter fraud is going to be found to lie with those who vote for Dems since they seem to like to hand out cash as a way to gain votes, and look the other way when the voter comes their way.
Posted by: gorb   2008-01-10 03:39  

#1  Civil rights activists and the state Democratic Party complain

When you see this you can be assured you are on the correct track and should continue.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-01-10 00:46  

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