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Anti-military lawyer key-jobs Marine's car
2007-12-31
Moderator note: I'm betting we're going to get multiple posts on this one today. Please use this post for all comments on the case, and please refrain from duplicate posts. Thx. AoS.

Oh, and the lawyer is a snake.
Blackfive

Marine Sgt Mike McNulty is on activation orders to Iraq (second tour). On December 1st, 2007, Mike went to visit a friend in Chicago before deploying to say goodbye. In order to get to his friend's residence, and keep in mind that Chicago is a myriad of diagonal and one-way streets, the front entrance (right way) to the one-way street was blocked. Mike, being a Marine, overcame and adapted by driving around the block to the other end of the street and backing up all the way to his friend's place.

While saying goodbye, at about 11am, he noticed a man leaning up against his car. Mike left his friend's apartment and caught the man keying his car on multiple sides.

The police report states:

Victim related to P/O that as he walked back to his vehicle, he observed the offender leaning up against his vehicle and rubbed/dragged his left arm and hand across the passenger side. As offender walked away from victim's vehicle, victim observed a scratch along the rear trunk and passenger's door area where offender dragged his arm and hand over. Victim and witness stopped offender and confronted him. Victim has military plates and decals on his vehicle and offender made anti war and military comments to victim. Upon P/O's arrival to scene, offender denied scratch victim's vehicle, but did admit to rubbing past it. Victim at this time did not sign complaint, because he is leaving tour for military duty. Offender said they accused him of scratching the car because he is Jewish. Offender's statements/responses to P/O's questions unreasonable.


As it turns out, the man is Chicago lawyer Jay R. Grodner, who owns a law firm in the city and has offices in the suburbs.

To make a long story short: Atty. Grodner is attempting to string the matter out until Sgt. McNulty ships out, after which it would be dismissed for lack of a complaining witness. There are, perhaps, a few things we can do:

1. Blackfive has Atty. Grodner's office contact information on his website. Should you choose to express yourself directly, please be polite, avoid foul language, and do not make threats. If you do any of these things, you will only give Atty. Grodner something to go after you on, by either a civil suit or a criminal complaint, and something he can post to DU or Daily Kos to gain sympathy with.

2. If anyone is a member of the Illinois bar and wants to take on Sgt. McNulty as a pro bono client, that would be nice. (I'd do it, but I'm not licensed to practice in Illinois.)

3. Regardless of the outcome of the criminal charges, this incident can and should result in action against his law license. There's a website where you can initiate a request for investigation.
Posted by:Mike

#30  Thanks to all for thoughts and prayers. Semper Fi!
Posted by: anymouse   2007-12-31 21:04  

#29  Godspeed and prayers for your son, Mouse.
Posted by: mom   2007-12-31 20:50  

#28  Bench warrant . . . ooooh!

'Mouse, tell your son good luck, good hunting, come home safe, and thanks for your service.
Posted by: Mike   2007-12-31 20:30  

#27  I am very pleased that this case can continue on with Sgt McNulty on his tour. The perp needs to be hammered by the very system that he has used to his nefarious ends.

I am also thrilled to see the groundswell of support on the ground support for this fine Sergeant. If a few examples are made of perps like this lawyer, they will change their behavior, not because it is right to do so, but because they will get hurt by their actions.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2007-12-31 20:19  

#26  Agreed, Mouse, best wishes and success for your son and all your family!
Posted by: Frank G   2007-12-31 19:17  

#25  Thanks, Sherry.
Posted by: lotp   2007-12-31 17:58  

#24  A Free Republic guy was present in court today --
His report is here

Part of his report:
Sgt. McNulty was in civvies. He was there with family & friends and his attorney.

There also appeared to be a couple of supporters sitting in the gallery.

I sat in the last row. With my eyesight & hearing shot, the following is the best I can make out.

The court is secured by the Cook County Sheriff's office The judge ( I didn't hear his name or see his nameplate) convened the court early - at 13:24. (Courtroom 29 - I believe it was Felony court)

Sgt. McNulty was called at 13:33. Jay R. Grodner was a no show. The judge issued a bench warrant for Mr. Grodner @ 13:36.

Sgt. McNulty filed the complaint and raised his hand and swore that it was true.

I thought that was the end of it, so I got up to leave and waited in the waiting area for the Sgt. to come out.

A Marine PFC, in dress blues, cut & razor sharp, walked in to lend his support.

Sgt. McNulty and his entourage came out, then was called back into the courtroom for about 10 minutes.

He came back out to leave. I met them outside. I gave Sgt. McNulty FRegards and a Semper Fi and told him we have his back and that thousands have his back.

He thanked us for the support.

Jay Grodner (or a representative) must have showed up, as, when I talked with the Sgt.'s attorney, he said Grodner wanted a continuance to get an attorney.

The case was continued and will go to fruition and Sgt. McNulty wont have to re-appear.



From 'Lectric Law Library
BENCH WARRANT - An order issued by a judge for the attachement or arrest of a person. The name of a process sometimes given to an attachment issued by order of a court, against an individual for some contempt, or for the purpose of arresting a person accused; the latter is seldom granted unless when a true bill has been found.

If a person fails to appear in court when she has been properly ordered to do so, the judge is authorized to issue a warrant (a court order authorizing a law enforcement officer to arrest someone) for her arrest. A warrant issued this way is called a bench warrant.
Posted by: Sherry   2007-12-31 17:45  

#23  Anymouse, your son has our thoughts and prayers as he deploys!

Agreed on eradicating the cockroaches ... but them I'm the wife of a retired officer. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2007-12-31 17:30  

#22  Ooooh, this could be very amusing, Glolurong Jones1696.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-12-31 16:58  

#21  At LGF someone posted that they went to the hearing today, Judge is a marine, lawyer didn't show, judge filed arrest warrant.
Posted by: Glolurong Jones1696   2007-12-31 16:55  

#20  Thanks, Sea. He is actually leaving today. As a military officer (27 years active/reserve), I know he is going to do a job he is trained to do, he is good at it, and regardless what the LL and MSM beleive...is necessary to eradicate the world from cockroaches that will kill you, me, our families and our way of life if given the opportunity.

However, I am a Dad.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-12-31 14:57  

#19  Yes Besoeker; "let's kill all the lawyers" - I used to think that...

But this is actually *in praise of lawyers*.

Rather, it was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution -- thus underscoring the important role that lawyers can play in society.


To the vast majority of people in the World, it must seem strange that the US Supreme Court (just 9 people) can hamstring any President - generally thought the most powerful person on the planet. But that's what happens. It astonished me when I first realised it.

Which is why it is so vital that lawyers 'act the part', and recognise that with this power comes immense responsibility. The rule of law is a major bulwark against the expansion of the power of Government, and the erosion of personal liberties. The final bulwark is rebellion, but at least in the US, the 2nd Amendment is there to ensure that descent into anarchy won't happen. Almost every other country in the world does not have that final safeguard...

All of which makes this lawyers' behaviour even more odious - tweaking the nose of the very people who create a safe and secure environment within which he can make (presumably a very good) living.

:(
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2007-12-31 14:49  

#18  Please help me remember the line once again.... I believe it still applies.

William Shakespeare (1564–1616), British dramatist, poet. Dick the butcher, in Henry VI, Part 2, act 4, sc. 2, l. 76-7.
Posted by: Besoeker   2007-12-31 14:13  

#17  Anymouse, please give our regards to your son. We wish him good luck, Godspeed, and a safe return.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-12-31 13:39  

#16  Oh, and the lawyer is a snake.

No need to insult snakes.
Posted by: DMFD   2007-12-31 13:01  

#15  apparently (accordingto comments at BlackFive) his AOL mailbox is "full" as well. LOL
Posted by: Frank G   2007-12-31 10:29  

#14  his website is down, and phones disconnected. Hope he has a nice monday ;-)
Posted by: Frank G   2007-12-31 10:27  

#13  Tar and Feather. Then kick his ass.
Posted by: jds   2007-12-31 10:26  

#12  Looks like he works out of his house.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=r0vyd07pdq67&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11332318&encType=1
Posted by: Parabellum    2007-12-31 09:23  

#11  I'm waiting for verification. Too easy to pull the leash on this one, cause it does appeal to the perception that the 'law fraternity' considers itself a privileged class, separate, above, and unaccountable to the people.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-12-31 08:56  

#10  This in city that has a stadium dubbed "Soldier Feild" (shaking head in disgust).
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2007-12-31 08:44  

#9  Groder is not "Jewish".
Posted by: newc   2007-12-31 08:01  

#8  Hopefully they can sue this waste of Oxygen into bankruptcy. This is pure sedition and a hate crime.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-12-31 07:57  

#7  Perhaps Groder should switch to the "They're picking on me because I'm an a-hole" argument.
Posted by: gorb   2007-12-31 06:28  

#6  Despicable indeed.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-12-31 05:39  

#5  The guys at Blackfive are all over this - lots of details re: address, fax numbers and what looks like (to my untutored eye) sensible legal advice. In particular, there may even be the possibility of the lawyer being charged with a hate crime! (personally, I despise those laws)

I think SGT McNulty is finding out he has a lot of friends, and Mr Grodner is about to find his life somewhat more difficult. Grodner using the "they're picking on me because I'm Jewish" argument is despicable.
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2007-12-31 05:07  

#4  I repeated it to Bill O'Reilly. It didn't even cost me $10! ;-)
Posted by: gorb   2007-12-31 02:48  

#3  Pay the right person $10 in the right neighborhood in Chicago and anything could happen.... just repeating what they say on the local news here....
not suggesting anything...

Posted by: 3dc   2007-12-31 02:19  

#2  If Sgt. McNulty has collision or uninsured on his auto insurance policy, can he just have his insurance policy pay for it and let them ream Grodner? Perhaps he can just work through affidavits or something? Maybe the insurance company can keep the claim alive while he is in Iraq.
Posted by: gorb   2007-12-31 02:01  

#1  My son deploys about the same time. This pisses me off like few things can. I would be willing to donate through PayPal if he has to hire a lawyer. If the charges are true...I would like to see him disbarred...and I would be proud to say I contributed to that end.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-12-31 01:09  

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