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Brown to Brits: Happy Xmas, your war is over!
2007-12-10
I certainly hope the Iraqis requested that the Brits leave. But I doubt it. Does anyone have a good explanation/context for this withdrawl? I'm hoping it meets with Tony Blair's approval. Great if so, but it looks just a wee bit desperate and hurried. It would be great to have them around a bit more. Even training up more Iraqis would be good because it would free up other coalition forces to maintain the momentum and pound AQI's a$$ into the sand once and for all. Seems like he's blindly keeping a campaign promise, but it also seems like British public opinion might want to stay in now that things are going well and Iraqis seem to be happy about things. Any Brits out there who have a feel for this? Am I way off here?
GORDON Brown yesterday delivered a stirring festive message to Our Boys in Iraq: “Happy Christmas – war is over.”
Oh, I'm just feeling warm and fuzzy all over already! That or I've been overrun by 100 gerbils.
The PM was cheered as he praised UK troops and revealed combat operations in Basra will end “within two weeks”.

Iraqi forces will take over as the 4,500-strong British force switches from front-line duties to a training role. By early next year, our contingent in Southern Iraq will be cut to 2,500 – and may be withdrawn completely in March.

The PM broke the good news in a flying visit to Iraq.
I would call it news. Not necessarily 'good' news. That's not the reporter's role to decide.
He landed at the ArmyÂ’ s base at Basra airport in darkness in an RAF Hercules transporter plane. Minutes later he spoke to Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki.

He then gave a rousing speech to 300 squaddies after shaking hands with them all. To warm applause, he told them the region – the last under British control in Iraq – would be handed back to the Iraqis in a fortnight.
Whose warm applause? The press corps?
He said: “The Prime Minister of Iraq has asked me to pass on his thanks to you for helping to rebuild the democracy of Iraq.
So why didn't he show up in person?
“This is because of the operations over the last month that you have been involved in.

“The security situation has not only improved, but he is able to tell me he will now be recommending a move to a provisional Iraqi control within two weeks.

“Iraqis can take far more control of their country.”

Mr Brown quoted Sir Winston Churchill and Field Marshal Montgomery as he thanked Our Boys for their “courage and bravery”.
Shouldn't Tony be doing that?
He said: “The British people are so grateful for all you do . . . we are incredibly proud of what you have done. The whole British people are proud of everything you achieved here “Thank you very much and happy Christmas to you all.”

Since Our Boys withdrew from BasraÂ’s city centre and palace to the airport a few miles away back in September attacks on them have fallen by 90 per cent.
And water is wet. OK. Go on.
They have been helping to train 30,000 police and armed forces during rebuilding operations.
Couldn't they stay to train more then? Safe but in the end, just as necessary and effective.
It is thought they will only be recalled to the front if there is a major post-handover incident coupled with a direct plea from Iraqi generals. Several hundred may be stationed in neighbouring Kuwait early next year.
Where they will take on the role of infidels to the terrorists.
Before flying out, Mr Brown insisted five Brits kidnapped in IraqÂ’s capital Baghdad in May must be freed immediately.
I'd stay to kick your terrorist a$$es but I gotta go back for an important vote or something.
The kidnappers warned last week the men will be killed unless troops are withdrawn, but Mr Brown said he would not be forced into changing his policies in the country.
Yeah. The terrorists are going to buy that. So will their sympathizers and future recruits.
He added: “The taking of hostages is completely unacceptable. We are demanding the immediate release.”
They'll get right on that. After they're done barbequeing a couple more teenagers.
Mr Brown could do a “Maggie” and defy the latest polls to win the next election, his closest ally claimed yesterday.
It'll be interesting to watch, that's for sure.
ChildrenÂ’s Secretary Ed No Balls said Margaret Thatcher led the Tories out of the Westland helicopter crisis and the loss of Cabinet ministers in 1986 to a landslide general election victory in 1987.
Any particular reason why you would bring this up?
Posted by:gorb

#12  Happy Christmas War is Over is a sappy crappy old John Lennon song moldie oldie DJ dredge up this time of year.

As to the question should America ever waste blood toil and tears on old Europe, we tend to regard Europe as an idiot brother-in-law that we continue to feel obligated to bail out even though we have no good reason to.
Posted by: regular joe   2007-12-10 19:43  

#11  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a vivid memory of American boyz (read men) lining up to volunteer to fight with/for Canada AND the UK when Hitler turned his attention on the Brits.

Is that not true? Is that memory a figment of my imagination?

So Balless Brown sayeth the war is over...you've won. Come home. Okay...so sayteh Brown.

Maybe, just maybe, there are Brit warriors and Canadian warriors and Aussie warriors that say...BS...the fight is NOT over...the war has NOT been won: Were do WE warriors sign up the the Yanks to continue the fight. I'm thinking this would be a damn good way to get some people out of the UK well in advance of the civil war they might fight one one. I say MIGHT, because I have no confidence that the Brit gov't will fight when the time comes...which is to say when their muslim overlords rear their ugly f*ckin' heads and take over the entire island in the name of allah. spit.

God help you in the UK. I'm teaching my children TODAY that they do not vote to help the people of Europe down the road. Why? Because you don't deserve to have American blood spilled again on your soil to bail you out of a situation of your own making and a situation you failed to address when you had the chance.
Posted by: Mark Z   2007-12-10 14:55  

#10  The British signed up to remove Saddam and to fight Al Queda. That mission is over. The Basra region is growing into a power struggle between Shia Groups which is what the Brits are now facing and it's not really their business. They probably should pull out while things are looking somewhat bright.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-12-10 14:07  

#9  It is pretty sad when the only hope of saving the nation lies with football hooligans.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2007-12-10 11:29  

#8  Unless you look at the non-city dwellers, where hunting and shooting sounds like it is on the upswing.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2007-12-10 11:28  

#7  There is no indication the British are not happy with the government they elected and they are being presented with no alternative other than me-too-but-less-corrupt. Very sad.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-12-10 10:56  

#6  Hopefully, Whom. But, I fear the nanny stating and liberal thinking have finished off what was left of the empire.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-12-10 10:53  

#5  Anonymoose - you got that right.

I think at some point the British people will rise up against the threat posed to them by their corrupt government and Muslim terrorists No, really - I believe that. It is in their blood.

I'm not sure what form it will take. Maybe gangs, maybe a general revolution. Sadly, I think it will be a bloody one. But I think it is building and we will see it within the next 7 years. Maybe more, maybe less. But the British were born with spine, it takes more than a generation or two for Darwin to turn vertibrates into invertibrates.
Posted by: Whomong Guelph4611   2007-12-10 10:20  

#4  Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking.
Posted by: treo   2007-12-10 09:58  

#3  For some reason this came across something like Tokyo Rose: "Surrender, British soldiers! The war is over for you! Put down your weapons and turn yourself over to the victorious Japanese army! You will be treated fairly!..."
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-12-10 09:03  

#2  The recent Australian election may too have been a factor.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-12-10 08:43  

#1  ChildrenÂ’s Secretary
WTF?
Posted by: Spot   2007-12-10 08:10  

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