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VDH responds to Rowan Williams
2007-11-26
I suggest that the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams read a little history about the British experience in India before he offers politically-correct but historically laughable sermons like the one he gave to a Muslim "lifestyle" magazine:

It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering it and normalising it. Rightly or wrongly, that's what the British Empire did - in India, for example. It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put it back together - Iraq, for example.

ONE, who is clearing the decks and moving on? And who are the "other people" putting Iraq back together? Iran? Saudi Arabia? China? The British in Basra? First, we read from the anti-war Left that the US is wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of its lives in Iraq, and yet now that we are clearing the decks and not putting it back together? Which is it?


TWO, Williams should read a little about British military campaigns in India, and then count the corpses.


THREE, he should also tally up the amount of money the U.S. has spent for civic and economic development in Iraq over four years, and then compare that to what Britain invested in any four-year period in their centuries-long occupation of India.


FOUR, I don't recall the British, after their second year in India, fostering nation-wide elections.


FIVE, if he is worried about the soul of civilization in general, and the U.S. in particular, he might equally ask his Muslim interviewers about the status of women in the Muslim world, polygamy, female circumcision, the existence of slavery in the Sudan, the status of free expression and dissent, and religious tolerance (i.e., he should try to visit Mecca on his next goodwill, interfaith tour) .


SIX, all Williams will accomplish is to convince Episcopalians in the U.S. not to follow the Anglican Church, and most Americans in general that, if they need any reminders, many of the loud left-wing British elite, nursed on envy of the US, still petulant over lost power and influence, and scared stiff of the demographic and immigration trends in its own country, are well, unhinged.
Posted by:lotp

#9  I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.

Word.
Posted by: Ptah   2007-11-26 16:57  

#8  I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.

May I borrow that line for all eternity?
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-11-26 13:14  

#7  Unfortunately, the Annapolis process will serve to legitimate political Islam.

A salient point—especially in light of what resulted from the Palestinian elections—and one that provides a strong argument for imposing military dictatorships over liberated conquered Islamic countries. Those who would enact shari'a law must be denied every opportunity.

Democracy only works among free people. Islam makes no such provisions and perverts any electoral outcome. Albeit, in Iraq the Sunnis slit their own throats by not participating, it is still doubtful in the extreme that anything but harsh military intervention could avert sectarian violence. Yet another demonstration of why democracy is ill-suited to theocratic and extremist societies.

I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.

Bottom line and end of story.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-26 13:10  

#6  VDH responds to eviscerates Rowan Williams

There. Fixed it.
Posted by: Mike   2007-11-26 09:37  

#5  I agree in general, but I don't equate "freedom" with elections. The Shiites used those elections to establish a huge powerbase. After the Sunnis shunned them, al-Qaeda and other groups began the terror in earnest. You don't see Sunnis dancing around bombed out Hummers anymore, because they view the US as their protector from the Iran backed Shiites, who hold the oil fields along with the Kurds. Those elections were jihad by other means. The Parliament is already pressuring for removal of US occupation troops. It is a time to place US self interest above all other consideration. Unfortunately, the Annapolis process will serve to legitimate political Islam. Only Wahabist and Khomeinist clerics will benefit from any sanction of dictatorship. I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-11-26 04:59  

#4  In a just world, subject to such a rebuttal, Rowan Williams would have difficulty sitting comfortably, let alone excreting for several days, if not weeks.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-26 03:16  

#3  Iraq and Afghanistan are better off now than they were before the U.S. invasions, and nothing this holy dipshit says will alter that fact.
Posted by: Spuque B. Hayes8037   2007-11-26 01:46  

#2  Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?
Posted by: Henry II   2007-11-26 01:17  

#1  Hear, hear.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2007-11-26 00:25  

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