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Iraq
Coalition forces find AQI charnal house; eight killed, 13 detained
2007-11-20
Coalition Forces killed eight terrorists, detained 13 suspects and found an alleged execution site, torture room and 16 weapons caches between Nov. 6 and 10 during a multi-day operation in the Diyala River Valley.

Nov. 7, Coalition forces observed several armed men maneuvering away from their location. Perceiving hostile intent, the ground force called for supporting aircraft to engage the armed men, zapping killing five terrorists. The ground force discovered a small cache of AK-47s, a pistol, grenade and ammunition at the suspects location.

Later that day in two separate areas, Coalition forces were engaged by armed men. Responding in self-defense, the ground force engaged the armed men, killing three terrorists. Coalition forces also detained 13 suspects during the four-day operation.

During operations Nov. 9, Coalition forces discovered what appeared to be an execution site. As they cleared the area they found the remains of approximately five individuals, as well as several 9mm casings believed to be used in the executions.

Over the course of the multi-day operation, Coalition forces located and destroyed 16 weapons caches to include: 13 complete anti-aircraft weapons, mounts, rounds and equipment; a World War II-era Russian T34 Cannon; 24 TOW missiles; 14 Saggar missiles; anti-personnel mines; 40 NBC masks; several machine guns and mounts; three jugs of homemade explosives; 10 anti-personnel mines; 35,200 feet of detention cord; one 25-pound bag of ammonium nitrate; several dozen mortars, tubs, fins, fuses and rounds; rifles; grenades and rocket propelled-grenades; ammunition; improvised explosive device-making materials; and two military-style vests. Two of the anti-aircraft weapons systems were found welded to the bed of a truck.

The ground force also discovered several buildings used for terrorist operations to include an alleged torture facility complete with chains, shackles, heavy-duty locks similar to those found in detention cell bunkers, windows cemented closed, terrorist propaganda materials, and kerosene heaters. Coalition forces found another building they believed to be an al-Qaeda in Iraq safe house containing additional terrorist propaganda and an alleged terrorist medical clinic with supplies, weapons and a hidden compartment in the floor.
I'm sure it's occurred to someone besides me that these goobers favor torture because they're perverts?

Because they hide their wimmin under sacks and try to build their society around men alone, they're left without even a normal relationship with Mom, much less with any other women. Their sexual selves end up stunted and ugly, or at best weird, like today's story about the Afghan dancing boys.

I can understand executing one's enemies, even chopping their heads off -- the old "swing of the chippy chopper on the big black block." Truth can be -- I believe it should be -- extracted using various flavors of giggle juice, alone or in combination. Somewhere between mild confusion and forgetting your name lies usable, verifiable, exploitable truth, without any broken bones or even a water boarding session.

Taking an interest in your enemy's pain requires a streak of sadism, and sadism is a sexual, not a military quality.
Nearby, they discovered what appeared to be a building used to create false IDs, complete with numerous ID-making materials and a small media cache. Reports indicate several of the rooms, including the torture room were recently inhabited. Coalition forces also found an improvised explosive device making facility inside one of the buildings, with numerous cylinders, tanks, tubes and car parts believed to be used in the production of IEDs. The ground force called for supporting aircraft to conduct an air strike to safely destroy the building to prevent further use by terrorists.

“Al-Qaeda in Iraq members are ruthless terrorists who brutalize, torture, and murder innocent Iraqis in their campaign of senseless terror,” said Maj. Winfield Danielson, MNF-I spokesperson. “Iraqi and Coalition forces will continue to capture or kill these brutal terrorists who seek to deny Iraqis a future of their choice.”
Posted by:Fred

#7  4. Being pious muslims by emulating Mohammed.

Q5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter.

One of many torture and murder hadiths:
When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest, he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders . . . "Torture him until you extract what he has," so [the torturer] kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead.
Posted by: ed   2007-11-20 14:42  

#6  Oh, and remember, it is a superior culture because it is not our culture, say all the usual suspects...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2007-11-20 13:47  

#5  But these are all just "quaint customs of the local culture" as far as leftists, feminists, dems and academics are concerned. It's only torture, murder and degradation when we Americans do it.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2007-11-20 13:46  

#4  LiberalHawk,
I'm afraid it's #1, and it's not only AQ. Several years ago a blogger in the PG wrote about the latest fad among young Arab men:

It was downloading clips of women being raped onto their cellphones. They could then watch the woman being degraded at work, in the mall etc.

You can think of AQ as simply acting out the fantasies of many Moslem males.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2007-11-20 11:30  

#3  (and they dont have sufficient faith in Allah to punish the above after death)

Sounds like what they call "shirk" to me... making themselves partners with their moon god.
Posted by: eLarson   2007-11-20 10:35  

#2  The US government should have long ago produced a horror movie showing how grotesque and sadistic al-Qaeda is, then distributed it anonymously over the Internet in Muslim and adjacent non-Muslim countries, in their language. Real choke and puke stuff, showing lots of dead Muslim victims, especially children. And an awful lots of mutilated al-Qaeda, covered in flies.

A picture can be worth a thousand words. It is a lot harder to think of virgins in heaven when you see lots of mutilated corpses, captioned with the details of their hideous deaths.

The movie could be punctuated with Imams and al-Qaeda leaders talking about how wonderful al-Qaeda, jihad, and being a martyr is, to show them as the evil bastards they are.

The US military learned during Vietnam that there is *no* way to show enemy or friendly dead that does not demoralize the public and turn them against both the military and the war. It had that effect on Americans, and the effect should be a lot stronger in Asia.

If they really wanted to go for the gold, they could even include some subliminal imagery and audio to associate al-Qaeda leaders with demons and hell.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-11-20 10:29  

#1  possibilities

1. They favor torture cause theyre pervs
2. They favor torture cause it works, and they dont have access to superior cleaner methods that others use? (Forgive me, I really dont know how hard ir easy it is to aquire or make effective giggle juice)
3. They really, really, really hate their adversaries, esp Shiite devils, secularist apostates, etc, (and they dont have sufficient faith in Allah to punish the above after death) This level of hatred too is a perversion, but not necessarily a sexual one.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2007-11-20 09:34  

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