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Emigration soars as Britons desert the UK
2007-11-16
Britain is experiencing the greatest exodus of its own nationals in recent history while immigration is at unprecedented levels, new figures show. Last year, 207,000 British citizens - one every three minutes - left the country while 510,000 foreigners arrived to stay for a year or more.

The British made up more than half of the 400,000 moving abroad - yet only 14 per cent of immigrants were UK nationals coming home. The figures do not include hundreds of thousands of east Europeans who have come to work in Britain in the past two years. This is because most are coming for less than 12 months and do not show up on the statistics.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics suggest that only one sixth of the immigrants in 2006 were from the states that joined the EU in 2004. The biggest influx was from the New Commonwealth - India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka - with more than 200,000.
Posted by:mrp

#21  Thanks Crosspatch,

Any Panama documentation links that might bear that out? I was born at Ft Clayton Army Hospital in the Canal Zone in '47 and am ready to jump to a RET friendly situation. Anything insight would be cool.
Thanks,
Posted by: Leonard Plynth Garnell   2007-11-16 21:27  

#20  Agreed P2K. And if there's nothing nice enough in the US, try the west coast of Oz. Now that's heaven. But no bargain.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-11-16 21:04  

#19  Yes, crosspatch. Except you and they are assuming stable governments that respect the rights of property. Let me introduce you to Hugo's Venezuela. Shit can go 'south' real quick in places without long records of stability. And of course, just like the bankers, the one's who gamble in this and lose are going to cry and extort the rest of the country to bail them out. Never mind they thought they were 'making it' while the rest of the 'fools' back home shell out the taxes they went for the south to avoid.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-11-16 20:34  

#18  My point is that I agree with the previous posting that it is probably baby boomers who saw their homes appreciate from tens of thousands of dollars to hundreds of thousands cashing in that investment and fleeing to a place where the weather is warmer and the living cheaper ... and used as an example the thousands of Americans who are moving to Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica every year as an example.

Panama, by the way, has an EXCELLENT deal for retirees ... no property taxes for 20 years AND discounts on nearly EVERYTHING.
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-16 20:28  

#17  Philosophers have long wondered how many wooden planks you can replace in a sailboat before you have a different ship.

Sadly, England will provide the answer to the riddle soon - if it has not already.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723   2007-11-16 19:47  

#16  The Mexican Constitution regulates the ownership of land and declares that ...within a zone of 100 kilometers from the border or 50 kilometers from the coast, a foreigner cannot acquire the direct ownership of the land. These areas are known as Restricted or Prohibited Zones. However, the latest Mexican Foreign Investment Law, which was ratified on December 28, 1993, allows a foreigner or foreign corporation to obtain the rights of ownership through a fiduciary trust known as Fidelicomiso, the equivalent of a US beneficiary trust.

Here

And I wouldn't count on continuing to own it if the border fence gets built.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-11-16 19:39  

#15  Here is just one of scores of companies who are helping Americans move to where the cost of living is a lot less. Several of my friends who are empty-nesters have all bought homes in the same neighborhood. Three have already moved down there, the other three will be moving in the next couple of years.

http://baja-relocation.com/
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-16 19:15  

#14  Yes you can. About a half dozen of my friends have.
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-16 19:12  

#13  Except Americans can't buy property in Mexico.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-11-16 18:18  

#12  "I'm wondering if the ones going to France and Spain are middle-class retirees headed for a little sunny weather and a small villa."

Probably. Much like the population explosion going on right now along Mexico's Pacific coast with US retirees moving there in droves. You can buy a really nice house for around 100K and have a live-in servant for about $75 a week. US Retirees are moving to Mexico by the thousands.
Posted by: crosspatch   2007-11-16 17:57  

#11  Their government has let them down.

If only it was that benign. Britain's government is nothing short of adversarial to the native Britons. Ken Livingston, George Galloway, Malloch-Brown and all their scum-sucking multiculturalist types are giving away the farm without even so much as a by-your-leave.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-16 17:27  

#10  More than 50 per cent of the British emigrants moved to just four countries in 2006 - Australia, New Zealand, France and Spain. Eight in every 100 went to the USA.

That's 58%. Seems a shame to abandon mother Britain. There ought to be another way rather than to give it to the barbarians without a shot being fired. Their government has let them down.
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-11-16 12:58  

#9  Tending bar leads to drunkenness and asbo behaviour, and fixing roofs means wobbling about on dangerous ladders. Better to leave the decisions to the experts at NuLabour, and make sure your telly tax is properly paid.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-11-16 12:34  

#8  Ex, hmm..err...isn't that what Vortigern sort of did resulting in foreigners setting up shop and staying for a long time?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-11-16 10:38  

#7  A lot of the foreigners entering the country are Poles and so forth come to work for just under a year. Provided they go back home for a bit they can reclaim all their taxes. In this way imported labor undercuts the locals (this should sound familiar to Americans) while cycling the cheap labor out of the country in such a way they never claim old age pension, etc.

It would be better to pay Britons a living wage to tend bar or repair the roof. But if you are going to cut the knees out from under your working class this is still a better solution than bringing in Pakistani hill tribes and pretending the end result will still be England. If anything, the UK should grant citizenship to as many Polish and Ukrainian Catholics and Romanian and Hungarian Orthodox as possible so as to redress some small part of the demographic nightmare we are confronted with.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-11-16 09:55  

#6  Following the historical pattern set around 400AD when Rome recalled its legions the the locals had to fend for themselves as strange, exotic, unwashed barbarians like Jutes, Angles and Saxons moved in with the manners of unkempt house pets, chasing the lassies and demanding tribute. Next thing you know, they think they own the place. Either find yourself a new Arthur or make sail for the west.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-11-16 09:03  

#5  MRP, Sorry about the Nym name mistake. Either my eyes are going bad, or fonts on the page are getting smaller.
Posted by: Delphi   2007-11-16 08:41  

#4  1. The article does not say if there is a correlation between the number of immigrants coming into Britain compared to those leaving.

2. The article does not state if there is a correlation between Social Services and welfare, and immigration in general.

3. I wonder what the impact to Britain would be if there was a precipitous drop in immigration due to a reduction in Social Services and Welfare?

Food for thought.

MVP, love the picture, reminds me of some of the girls from Malaysia and Japan I used to hang around with in college.
Posted by: Delphi   2007-11-16 08:36  

#3  Funny how the question about why they're leaving is never discussed...
Posted by: Raj   2007-11-16 08:03  

#2  The Youngstown of tomorrow.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-11-16 07:45  

#1  I would tend to discount the emigrants to France & Spain, who can drive back to the UK in a few hours.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2007-11-16 06:20  

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