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Britain
One more round on Diego Garcia prison claims
2007-10-19
Yes, this shit again.
Allegations that the CIA held al-Qaida suspects for interrogation at a secret prison on sovereign British territory are to be investigated by MPs, the Guardian has learned. The all-party foreign affairs committee is to examine long-standing suspicions that the agency has operated one of its so-called "black site" prisons on Diego Garcia, the British overseas territory in the Indian Ocean that is home to a large US military base.

Lawyers from Reprieve, a communist legal charity that represents a number of detainees at Guantánamo Bay, including several former British residents, are calling on the committee to question US and British officials about the allegations. According to the organisation's submission to the committee, the UK government is "potentially systematically complicit in the most serious crimes against humanity of disappearance, torture and prolonged incommunicado detention".

Clive Stafford Smith, the charity's legal director, said he was "absolutely and categorically certain" that prisoners have been held on the island. "If the foreign affairs committee approaches this thoroughly, they will get to the bottom of it," he said.
And if they don't, Clive will demand another investigation. And another. And another.
Andrew Tyrie, Tory MP for Chichester and a campaigner against the CIA's use of detention without trial, has also urged the committee to investigate. He said: "Time and time again the UK government has relied on US assurances on this issue, refusing to examine the truth of these allegations for themselves. It is high time our government took its head out of the sand and looked into these allegations."
Time Andy took his head out of his ass and realized that the people he's defending will kill him if they get the chance.
A member of the foreign affairs committee said the committee would pursue the allegations as part of its inquiry into Britain's overseas territories. Although Diego Garcia is part of the British Indian Ocean Territory, it is unclear whether the British government knows whether the CIA has detained prisoners there or not.

UK officials are known to have questioned their American counterparts about the allegation several times over a period of more than three years, most recently last month. Whenever MPs have attempted to press ministers in the Commons, they have met with the same response: that the US authorities "have repeatedly given us assurances" that no terrorism suspects have been held there.
Which should end up, diplomatically, but the wankers will keep pressing.
The existence of the CIA's black site prisons was acknowledged by President George Bush in September last year. He said al-Qaida suspects or members of the Taliban who "withhold information that could save American lives" have been taken "to an environment where they can be held secretly, questioned by experts".
Ice Station Zebra. I keep suggesting this only half in jest. Put the mooks on ice somewhere we control absolutely, so that this sort of nonsense can't happen.
Mr Bush did not disclose the location of any prison, but suspicion that one may have been located on Diego Garcia has been building for years. Any evidence uncovered by the foreign affairs committee pointing to the existence of a secret CIA prison on the island would be hugely embarrassing for ministers.

Barry McCaffrey, a retired four-star US general who is professor of international security studies at the West Point military academy, has twice spoken publicly about the use of Diego Garcia to detain suspects. In May 2004 he said: "We're probably holding around 3,000 people, you know, Bagram air field, Diego Garcia, Guantánamo, 16 camps throughout Iraq." In December last year he repeated the claim: "They're behind bars...we've got them on Diego Garcia, in Bagram air field, in Guantánamo."
Nice going, Barry, you got them riled up.
MPs on the committee may inquire into a Gulfstream executive jet which has been linked by its registration number to several CIA prisoner operations - known as extraordinary renditions - and which flew from Washington to Diego Garcia, via Athens, on September 11 2002, soon after the capture of Ramzi Binalshibh, a suspected planner of the September 11 attacks the previous year.
Another legacy of Jamie Gorelick, who decided that it wasn't cricket to allow the CIA to change the tail numbers on its planes, something they'd been doing for years. As a result people were able to track the CIA's planes and figure out stuff they didn't need to know.
A prison of some sort is known to exist on Diego Garcia: in 1984, a review by the US government's general accounting office of construction work on the island reported that a "detention facility" had been completed the previous December. British ministers have also disclosed that a building on the island was redesignated as a prison after the September 11 attacks.
It's for the shore patrol. The bars get pretty wild on a Saturday night ...
Last June Dick Marty, a Swiss senator who investigated the CIA's use of European territory and air space during prisoner operations, concluded in a report to the Council of Europe that prisoners had been held on the island. Mr Marty, who later told the European parliament that he had received help from senior CIA officers, reported: "We have received concurring confirmations that United States agencies have used Diego Garcia, which is the international legal responsibility of the UK, in the 'processing' of high-value detainees."
Yes, him again. He won't let go, because this is how he gets his name in the international papers.
One possibility which the foreign affairs committee may explore is that suspects have been held on a prison ship off the coast of Diego Garcia. The UN special rapporteur on torture, Manfred Nowak, has said that he has heard from reliable sources that the US has held prisoners on ships in the Indian Ocean. There have also been second-hand accounts from detainees at Guantánamo of prisoners being held on US naval vessels.
Good place for them. Sail the Southern Sea for a few years. If the mooks complain drop them on an ice floe.
Posted by:Steve White

#6  I'll bet this place is more like that Caribbean vacation spot, club gitmo, than the left's fevered imagination of a type of devil's island,



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Posted by: Galactic Coordinator Shins1195   2007-10-19 09:58  

#5  Oh, and we lease our part of Diego Garcia from the British. Just look at this as trying to separate our alliance as well.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-10-19 06:56  

#4  Even if this was true, it could only be a couple at a time. Diego is a runway with a couple buildings. Really, not much of an exaggeration.
If we were going to or are doing it, it is at a much more private, remote and out of the way place.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-10-19 06:53  

#3  In October 2001, even Alan Dershowitz was predicting use of torture. Most of us were open to it.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-10-19 05:27  

#2  If these assholes applied a minuscule fraction of their hand-wringing about this to the incredible human rights abuses being committed in the name of shari'a law, we could already have made tremendous strides in the Global War on Terror. Instead, these effete intellectual upper-class twits restrict themselves to inciting outrage over entirely reasonable measures being used to fight the most vicious genocidal psychotic bastards on earth. Far more connections need to be drawn between Islam and Nazism. It will make this sort of preening appeasement far more difficult to put over on people.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-19 00:52  

#1  Prove it. Then do something about it.
In the meantime, fuck off and die...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-10-19 00:26  

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