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Home Front: Politix
Gore gets a cold shoulder
2007-10-15
ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
But, but, it's a Nobel Prize! The distinguished folk that hand these things out are true scholars, not swayed by politics or emotions!
Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.
But why listen to him? He was too smart to want to be wasn't good enough to be VP.
His comments came on the same day that the Nobel committee honoured Mr Gore for his work in support of the link between humans and global warming.
Smack!
"We're brainwashing our children," said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. "They're going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It's ridiculous."
Yeah, they're being socialized which goes hand-in-hand with the erosion of common sense.
At his first appearance since the award was announced in Oslo, Mr Gore said: "We have to quickly find a way to change the world's consciousness about exactly what we're facing."
I wonder what Gore is invested in these days.
Mr Gore shared the Nobel prize with the United Nations climate panel for their work in helping to galvanise international action against global warming.
Hold on just a bit longer, W, help is on the way!
But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.

However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years.
With the smell of imminent moonbat humiliation in the air, gorb rubs his hands together, smacks his lips, and settles down into his favorite recliner with a large bucket of popcorn. He realizes that it would be nice to discredit the fools now when it would do the most good on many fronts, but he is also patient.
"We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was," Dr Gray said.
By then they'll have gone on to something else and distracted their followers from the memory of all this foolishness, I assure you.
During his speech to a crowd of about 300 that included meteorology students and a host of professional meteorologists, Dr Gray also said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error.

He cited statistics showing there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperatures, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.
But the Goracle thinks Katrina counts for 30 hurricanes, thereby making him right again.
"The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," Dr Gray said.
Except for maybe the hot air coming out of liberal mouths, of course. Better look into this, Gore could be right.
He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science.
Except for the fact that they vote, who cares?
"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."
How about an anonymous vote?
Posted by:gorb

#13  #11 - I read an interview with Gray some months ago. He wasn't shown the door, but his grant money went away - under Clinton - and who was his Vice President again?

So he retired.
Posted by: Bobby   2007-10-15 17:09  

#12  The great irony in all of this is that Gore was V.P. when Kyoto was signed and he and Clinton were unable to convince a Democratically controlled Congress to pass the treaty.

IMO, Bubba pushed the bill only because he knew it had a snowball's chance in Iraq of actually passing. Then he could say: Shucks, I tried.
Posted by: xbalanke   2007-10-15 16:45  

#11  Didn't Dr. Gray get fired from the Hurrican sevice for speaking out against administration weather-related policies? Seem to remember other scientists in the gov't employ also being shown the door when they stepped on the holy grail......
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-10-15 14:33  

#10  The great irony in all of this is that Gore was V.P. when Kyoto was signed and he and Clinton were unable to convince a Democratically controlled Congress to pass the treaty. But its W's fault for agreeing with the Dems that the treaty was based on fiction less facts and would be crippling to our economy if the 3rd world (i.e India and China) were not included in the high level of first emitters. Hypocrisy rules and that is why you win the Nobel, the Congress and the admiration of the NYTs and Harry Reid.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-10-15 14:18  

#9  "Gore gets the cold shoulder"--it's one of those subtle esoteric effects of global warming that only the annointed can understand.
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-10-15 12:59  

#8  When scientists refuse to speak up because of fear of funding or political expediency they should not be surprised when science is hijacked by politics and we all take a step backwards.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-10-15 12:46  

#7  Gray is a top notch fellow on hurricane forecasting having founded the statistical-dynamic school on the subject.

However, he keeps making statements (e.g., anthropomorphic warming is zero) or making forecasts on climate (a cooling cycle is starting) based on some theory (or theories) about the ocean/atmosphere interaction. Unfortunately he hasn't published an article laying out his theory in detail nor has he released whatever calculations his forecasts are based on.

In his own way, Dr. Gray is as big a violator of science as Al Gore.
Posted by: mhw   2007-10-15 11:04  

#6  Totally agree with you on the Thorium plants, which are also breeders. My understanding is that the Uranium proponents jiggered the numbers by including the Uranium dissolved in ocean water in the numbers, because Thorium doesn't dissolve as much. Actual recoverable reserves of thorium are much larger than Uranium reserves.

The only maker of a thorium fueled reactor was General Atomics, which went out of business after building a gas-moderated reactor in Colorado, which also was taken off-line when, I believe, their helium pumping fan broke down and they couldn't make a replacement.

Don't forget the Candu reactors, which have anti-proliferation measures of their own.
Posted by: ptah   2007-10-15 11:04  

#5  One of the problems with the global warming hytseria is that the day teh lie is exposed (IMHO in less then two years) then it will be difficult to get mobilization/funding for real enviromental problms like the exhaustion of ocean resources.

Another one is that lesser growth translates in lesser resources for investigation: maltusian politics induced by the global warming hysteria mens that in the future we will have less money for investigation. Also we should be spending on investigation on thorium-fed nucler plants (thorium does not produce plutonium and thus such plants cannot be used for making nukes) and on cold-fusion. Instead we are throwing money away at dead ends like windfarms, bio-fuels and similar crap.

Humankind could end losing the recae against the clock and Gore and his complices will be responsible for it.
Posted by: JFM   2007-10-15 10:55  

#4  Unfortunately, science (for the most part) has become dependent on grants. Most of the grants come from the uninformed, therefore you get out what goes in. Crap.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-10-15 08:56  

#3  I never thought I'd see the end of science in my lifetime. The scary part is the thousands of professional scientists choosing a quasi-religous ideology over the scientific method. The good news is that scientific scepticism is alive and well on the Internet.
Posted by: phil_b   2007-10-15 08:44  

#2  it's not science, it's a religion for those who don't have one
Posted by: Frank G   2007-10-15 08:15  

#1  I'm very worried for the future of science when the big lie of anthropogenic global warming is apparent to the majority.

Is a grant really worth the pollution to the image of science?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2007-10-15 08:08  

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