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China-Japan-Koreas
U.S. negotiations with Norks yielding no concrete info about nuke program
2007-10-12
From East Asia Intel, subscription.
U.S. officials upset with the nuclear talks with North Korea last week said that chief envoy Christopher Hill continues to make concessions to the North Koreans without any firm commitment from Pyongyang to reveal its nuclear programs.
Our State Department hard at work at undermining any strength we have by giving away the farm for promises from pathological liars.
At issue is the continuing refusal by Pyongyang to explain and give up its covert uranium enrichment program, which triggered the crisis in 2003. North Korea at first admitted to having a uranium nuclear arms program but since then has consistently denied it.
Lucy pulled the football again, Charlie Brown. You never learn.
Hill told reporters last week that getting to the bottom of the uranium program was still an objective of the United States. But his comments emphasized “dismantling” the known plutonium arms program and appeared to play down prospects that North Korea would admit, again, to the uranium program.
The Norks got their $25 million in nefarious money back on some promises to a sucker.
“What we hope to have … by the end of the year is the disablement of the graphite moderator, that is the plutonium production; a full declaration, including a full declaration of the weapons-grade plutonium that has already been produced — this is important because we need to know what they have out there somewhere; and then we would have a complete resolution of the uranium enrichment issue,” Hill said.
That is your hope, but you have no leverage now.
“Now, as in all negotiations, to get something you have to give something, and what we're giving is further progress on our bilateral relationship," he said.
We given lots and have received nothing---nothing for it. Once--shame on you. Twice---shame on me.
Hill said he has agreed to work “very closely with them to get them off the terrorism list” — something that likely will be opposed by Japan’s government until North Korea fully resolves the issue of abducted Japanese from the 1970s.
Hill is a chump. They are on the list because they aid and abet terrorists. They need to stay on the list.
Asked about the uranium program, Hill indicated that the main priority is to dismantle the known plutonium program, and “if it turns out they have a uranium enrichment facility, that would have to be disabled.”

“I think there could well be other facilities, but that will be determined as we move forward through the declaration process,” he said.

His statement revealed that North Korean officials continued to deny having a uranium program in the latest round of talks, which ended recently in Beijing.

The final statement included a requirement that North Korea clarify its uranium program. But Hill said that does not mean North Korea admitted to having the program. “But it is an acknowledgement that they have to resolve it,” he said.
I read that last paragraph three times. It is just diplo-bulls*it. I cannot stand it any more. And may I assume that Condi is calling the shots on this mad hatter's tea party of Hill's?
Posted by:Alaska Paul

#12  I'm just so po'ed on so many levels, but I thought Rummy had ferreted most of them out, at least those who would be in positions of real responsibility. I fear for the Republic when people like this are so prevalent in the leadership of all institutions of the country, but especially the military, who sacrifice their whole lives for the country. I really spend a lot of time wondering if there is some limit to how long a republic can last.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-12 21:06  

#11  NS, count back to when some of these generals were considered promotable to full Colonel or their first star.

3 guesses who was president then, who stripped out a lot of good people from the military ranks and whose imprimatur was on the ones that stayed.

Not a blanket indictment - some like Pace and Petraeus made it through. But others .....
Posted by: lotp   2007-10-12 20:51  

#10  And if you think I was snarky before wait till this gem gets posted tomorrow. I'm so po'ed I don't know if I'll get to sleep with out first inducing alcohol poisoning.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-12 20:31  

#9  ouch, NS.
Posted by: lotp   2007-10-12 20:25  

#8  The cookie pushers must win promotions based on getting agreements signed, sort of like the military does when one wins an action. Perhaps these guys are just trying to get an agreement, any agreement, to get their ticket punched for the next level, the State Peace College?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-12 19:38  

#7  North Korea wil only disable, not destroy its alleged nuc reactors for now, and won't disclose specifically how many nuclear devices it actually has - SSSSSSSHHHHHHH, iff any???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-10-12 19:36  

#6  Same State Dept tools - I'd thought Christopher Hill had his head on straight...perhaps it's a "contact buzz" from his peers? I wonder if it's as dire as noted. Hill had been acknowledging the complications of negotiating with proven liars, I'd assumed enough safeguards against NK waffling were built-in....we'll see, I guess.
Posted by: Frank G   2007-10-12 19:02  

#5  The thing that really bothers me about this whole Nork/US negotiations is that it is being played out in the Clinton White House style but Bush is in the White House.

And thanks to the Mod who put the Charlie Brown/Lucy football cartoon in the article. It is sooooo....... appropriate.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2007-10-12 18:53  

#4  And may I assume that Condi is calling the shots on this mad hatter's tea party of Hill's?

It's possible. Or there are enough careerists there that it scarcely even matters who the secretary is anymore. I'm not sure which is more disturbing.
Posted by: eLarson   2007-10-12 17:40  

#3  The central problem is that we are there preventing reunification.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-10-12 17:22  

#2  The central problem is that Kim continues his egregious oxygen theft.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-10-12 17:15  

#1  Why don't they ask the Syrians?
Posted by: tu3031   2007-10-12 16:00  

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