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Outrage in Germany at threat to down hijacked aircraft
2007-09-19
German Defence Minister Franz Josef Jung has provoked outrage by warning that he would be prepared to give the order to shoot down a hijacked aircraft if it posed a threat in German airspace.

Jung freely acknowledged that there was currently no constitutional backing for an order of this kind and that there was no consensus on the issue within the governing coalition. But he said in an interview with the magazine Focus he would make use of emergency powers in an exceptional case. "If there is no other way, I would give the order to shoot down (an aircraft) in order to protect our citizens," the defence minister said.

Dieter Wiefelspuetz, internal affairs spokesman for the Social Democrats (SPD), the junior coalition partner in the government, rejected Jung's remarks outright. "The defence minister has to respect constitutional law," he told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa in Berlin.
And to hell with peoples' safety.
Referring to the decision by the Constitutional Court last year to remove from a new air safety bill a provision allowing a hijacked plane to be downed if it posed a threat, Wiefelspuetz said: "We have to respect the judgement and stick to it."

The court ruled the order could be given only if there were no innocents aboard the aircraft in question, placing their right to life above security considerations.

Opposition politician Burkhard Hirsch of the liberal FDP said it was the first time in modern German history that a minister had threatened to defy openly the country's highest court. And the Greens, also in opposition, demanded Jung's resignation.

Under persistent questioning Monday, government spokesmen declined to be drawn on the issue, as journalists suggested the minister's main intention in restarting an old debate was party political.

Government ministers from Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats, among them Jung, have sought in recent weeks to establish clear positions of difference with the SPD. And terrorism, given the September 4 arrests of three suspected Islamist bombers planning mass carnage, currently tops the German political agenda.
Wonder why?
Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, also of the CDU, told a weekend newspaper the arrests had not cut the threat of terrorism. "We know that we are in the cross-wires of Islamist terrorists," he said.
'cross-wires'? He mangled the metaphor but it sounds rather appropriate.
Schaeuble also referred to the possibility of a terrorist nuclear "dirty bomb," saying that it was merely a matter of time before terrorists spread chaos and confusion by detonating a device that spread radioactive material.

Expert opinion is divided on how effective such a device would be, and Schaeuble was immediately accused of scare-mongering. "There is no sense in spreading senseless panic," SPD parliamentary caucus head Peter Struck said.
It would never do to raise the concerns of the public ...
Schaeuble has for months been pressing for legal backing to spy on personal computers and to stiffen counter-terrorism laws in general, confident that he has the bulk of the population behind him.

Democratic senators SPD ministers have opposed his aims on civil liberties grounds. But with Merkel and her party riding high in the polls, CDU politicians believe the time is right - halfway through the parliamentary term - to stake out clear differences from their SPD partners in government.
Posted by:lotp

#7  Any passengers on a plane that gets hijacked after 9/11 that don't fight back deserve what they get.

Yup. I call it the Post 9-11 Revised Civilian Hijacking Protocol™. A little something I proposed less than 48 hours after the 9-11 atrocity. What amazes me is how many troublemakers on these civilian flights have emerged without their spines crushed.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-09-19 16:10  

#6  Adding on to #2: A shoot down of a jihadi-jacked airliner only ends the lives of the innocents by a bit; it is a safe bet they are just along for the ride into whatever target has been chosen.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-09-19 14:40  

#5  The funny thing was I remember folks on the left trying to make a big deal out of the Penn 9/11 being shot down and most of the people I know saying (a) It wasn't (b) I should damn well hope the air force was seconds away from blowing it up anyway.

Kind of diffused their conspiracy claims for the most part.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-09-19 11:22  

#4  tu3031: That is correct.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-09-19 09:52  

#3  I'm sorry. Any passengers on a plane that gets hijacked after 9/11 that don't fight back deserve what they get.
Posted by: tu3031   2007-09-19 09:17  

#2  If you make it crystal-clear that you WILL shoot down hijacked aircraft, you probably won't have any hijackings by 'normal' criminals, only suicidal jihadi terrorists, and those are the ones you absolutely have to shoot down. The death of any innocents on board is truly tragic, but in war people get killed.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-09-19 07:37  

#1  Wait until a hijacked airplane is flown into a crowded German gymnasium (high school). Then be prepared for outrage over why the plane was not shot down.

Dieter Wiefelspuetz should be made to watch several days worth of non-stop archived 9-11 atrocity coverage in the Alex DeLarge fashion.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-09-19 01:05  

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