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| 2007-08-28 |
| "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"-Adolph Hitler A very long article about the Armenian Genocide in Turkey. By Robert Fisk of all people. I have to say, it seems like he got this one right. |
| Posted by:Free Radical |
| #9 In 1920, British occupiers of much of Turkey, sent a telegram to the leaders at large demanding cessation of hostilities against Armenians. The military leader, Kemal Ataturk, responded by ceasing hostilities in the West while stepping up genocide in the east and south. Constantinople (Istanbul) armories were handed over to the Allies, and they chose to ignore atrocities in the West. After the genocide was complete, Ataturk conducted his "March to the Mediterranean" and split apart surprised occupation troops. Once foreign soldiers abandoned Turkey, Ataturk decided to abandon both the Sultanate and Caliphate, and to bring Turkey up to "European levels of civilization." His "modernization" and integration campaigns were little more than tactical efforts against backwardness and for subversion of Europe. Genocide-denial has worked well for Turkey in the past; it could work again. |
| Posted by: Blackbeard Elmomosh9893 2007-08-28 18:39 |
| #8 Murat? :> I can call down the mighty clods with my special troll rod. It's Greek. All of Cyprus will in time be Greek. Live it, learn it, deal with it. Okay..... I figure we gots 30 minutes..... maybe less, this post my not make it. :) |
| Posted by: Thomas Woof 2007-08-28 18:36 |
| #7 Note in #5 that Iran is called the Persian Empire. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2007-08-28 18:24 |
| #6 Armenian Genocide Map, 1915 |
| Posted by: ed 2007-08-28 18:16 |
| #5 Much of Rantburg's favorite muslims' territory used to be Armenian. The Kurds are the primary executors and beneficiaries of the Armenian Genocide. Distribution of the Armenian Population in Caucasia, 1914 and 1926 |
| Posted by: ed 2007-08-28 18:09 |
| #4 While visiting Armenia back in 2001, I laid flowers and lit a candle at the genocide memorial that overlooks the capital of Yerevan. Despite the recent 9-11 atrocity I had yet to fully comprehend what an eternal threat Islam was and remains to all free people. Due to that, I was slightly taken aback at the deep and abiding hatred most Armenians displayed for all Muslims of any stripe. The Armenian genocide is still a fresh wound in the mind of her countrymen. In light of Islam's current onslaught against mankind, I can better understand why the Armenians have refused to forgive or forget this tragic calamity. To gain some insight into this ignoble precursor of the Holocaust, please read "The Forty Days of Musa Dagh" by Franz Werfel. This inspiring book chronicles how Gabriel Bagradian led some 5,000 Turkish Armenians into the mountainous redoubt of Musa Dagh. Relying upon his previous military training, Bagradian rallied his brave band to hold out against superior Turkish forces during a harrowing six week siege. Islam seeks to repeat this horror around the entire world. We have yet to realize this simple fact and respond appropriately. Any delay only ups the butcher's bill and increases the likelihood of a Muslim holocaust. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-08-28 17:23 |
| #3 "...now we are finding new material in France and new pictures taken by humanitarian workers of the time. We know there were two or three documentary films from 1915, one shot approvingly by a Kurdish leader to show how the Turks "dealt" with Armenians." As much as it hurts, it is none the less true that the Kurds were willing executioners of the Armenians back then; and it wasn't primarily fundamentalist moslems either - the Secular moslems had the best guns and did the most killing. |
| Posted by: mhw 2007-08-28 14:04 |
| #2 More likely Murat. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-08-28 10:59 |
| #1 It is a myth Hitler probably never said it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_quote |
| Posted by: bernardz 2007-08-28 10:41 |