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| Forget lily-livered liberalism, time to take stand and say we don't want Muslim immigrants |
| 2007-08-05 |
| By Kevin Myers (Ireland) LET me ask you something. Is it a rational decision for a secular-Christian society to admit thousands of Muslims into its midst? Comparable movements of Christians into Muslim societies are not permitted, so what essential, non-negotiable, mutually respected right is involved? The question is especially apposite, because we now know the consequences for every single European society which has admitted large numbers of Muslims: social alienation, religious antagonism and outright terrorism. We know this. We all know it. And yet we continue to allow Muslim immigration. Why? What do we gain from it? Well, up until two weeks ago you might have said, more doctors - for when Mary Harney declared that she was going to solve the impasse in the health service by bringing in medical graduates from around the world, we all accepted that doctors, no matter their religion, were dedicated to saving life. That was then. We know otherwise now. Clearly the Hippocratic Oath doesn't have the universal power we once thought. Even Mengele, for all his evil, could maintain the fiction that his abominable experiments were of some medical use. But no one could possibly say that of the medical mass-murder plots in Britain, where the term WMD has taken on a new and grisly resonance for some Muslim doctors. Which ones? We don't know. Okay: so why take the risk? Now, whenever I write about immigration, the response is a bristling silence, as the binary-weight of physical fear and PC-conformism successfully suppresses debate on Ireland's future. Occasionally, one hears a little bleat, "You're not being helpful" - ah yes, the lily-livered whinge of unprincipled liberalism. Thus, the Dail has never debated the effects of Christian, European population-movement into Ireland, never mind the consequences of Islamic immigration. This is frivolousness to the point of delinquency, the hallmark of a society which has neither faith in its own values, nor a determination for them to endure. And a society which does not defend its core-certainties is sooner or later doomed. Much of Europe is so afflicted, and Britain is in an advanced stage of the disease. Islamic norms are now tolerated, and informally enforced, across many British cities, where women routinely wear full face-veils. Of Britain's two million Muslims, over 300,000 believe suicide attacks in the West are justified, and 500,000 believe the 7/7 attacks in London two years ago were the work of British intelligence. Some 600,000 do not even regard themselves as British, 37pc want sharia law in Britain, and one-quarter want to live in all-Muslim areas. Meanwhile, MI5 is close to being overwhelmed by the sheer scale of the domestic terrorist insurgency: 100 Islamicist suspects are already awaiting trial, and there are some 200 terrorist networks, with 1,700 members, now operating around the country. "Immigrants are good for a society," goes the brainless parrot-cry of Irish dogmatic advocates. Sometimes, sometimes, but not always. In Britain, 16pc of Christians are economically inactive; the figure for Muslims is twice that, 31pc. Unemployment for Muslim women stands at 18pc, compared to 4pc for Jewish and Christian women. In Luton, 44pc of school pupils are Muslim, though only 30pc of the population of the town are. Which means that Muslim families have 50pc more children than those of the indigenous population - in other words, within a couple of generations, the two groups in Luton will be swapping demographic places. Better still, Dr Nazia Khanum, the "Chair" of the splendidly named Luton Multicultural Women's Coalition, (no, I didn't make it up: I just couldn't) has complained that in many village schools near Luton - in rustic Bedfordshire - both teachers and pupils were almost entirely white. What? White Christians? In England? How perfectly shocking. And terrifyingly, there is no large-scale Islamic rejection of the murderous projects of their co-religionists in Britain; no mass-rallies of Muslims denouncing Islamicism; no call from within Muslim society for Muslims to join the army or police; and no unconditional and all-embracing campaign to extirpate murderous fundamentalism from within British Muslim society. Even "liberal" Muslims blame British foreign policy for Islamic terrorism in Britain, while remaining silent about the unspeakable Muslim-on-Muslim atrocities in Iraq. These plumb depths that are unprecedented in any conflict. Take one recent example: Sunni terrorists exploded a bomb at a Shia girls' university near Baghdad as the students broke for lunch. A suicide car-bomber meanwhile watched which way the panic-stricken girls were fleeing from the blast, and then drove into the largest mass of them, detonated his bomb and killed over hundred of them. Here was a very special jihad operation indeed, one in which the martyr personally took his 72 virgins with him to paradise, with another 30 to spare. What a thoughtful fellow. But not even the Nazis at their most depraved made a public virtue out of slaughtering teenage girls. Enough. So what advantage do we derive from allowing Muslims into Ireland, rather than Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, Parsis, Jains or even Christians? What rational justification is there for enlarging our Islamic population? What is it? Go on, what is it? |
| Posted by:twobyfour |
| #16 Comparable movements of Christians into Muslim societies are not permitted, so what essential, non-negotiable, mutually respected right is involved? Reciprocity? What a And terrifyingly, there is no large-scale Islamic rejection of the murderous projects of their co-religionists in Britain; no mass-rallies of Muslims denouncing Islamicism; no call from within Muslim society for Muslims to join the army or police; and no unconditional and all-embracing campaign to extirpate murderous fundamentalism from within British Muslim society. Even "liberal" Muslims blame British foreign policy for Islamic terrorism in Britain, while remaining silent about the unspeakable Muslim-on-Muslim atrocities in Iraq. Ye, goode olde “deafening silence”. Heard thundering on sides of the pond and vigorously ignored by liberals and our political traitor elite in equal measure. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-08-05 16:00 |
| #15 We have to force ourselves to turn off the TV, go out and discuss policy among your fellow Americans, force the asshole Congress to make laws and make a better world. We are great at setting aside land in perpituity, and protecting the environment for various fauna, but rampant overpopulation and wide open borders seem to be far beyond our human reach. BULLSHIT ! We can stop immigration, we can set population limits, and we can export the ideas necessary for other countries to control their own populations. While doing so, remember one thing. He who desires expanding his political base is the enemy among us. We can remove them now at the risk of being PC negative, or we can sit back and allow the once great USA to become the cracking, aging, 20th century museum and monument to apathy. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2007-08-05 13:53 |
| #14 Day, dollar. |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2007-08-05 10:30 |
| #13 Yep, and it's all to with "Foreign Policy", and that's the pakiwaki version. Pass the smack, kill infidels, turn a blind eye to everything. Taqiya, too, occasional hudna, total islam is what they want, and Brits are being blinded to the threat by a media that is totally deceptive, with its' own agenda, never mind the politicians. Been going on for years. Time to get pro-active, Brits. (Never happen). |
| Posted by: rhodesiafever 2007-08-05 10:03 |
| #12 Here is a must see video that explains in detail the dangers of Uncontrolled Immigration! It is about 9.5 minutes in length. A poster on HotAir deserves the Hat Tip, but I can't recall his name. |
| Posted by: Natural Law 2007-08-05 10:00 |
| #11 Forty years now, eh? Time flies when you're getting old. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-08-05 09:29 |
| #10 Oh yes, and... And terrifyingly, there is no large-scale Islamic rejection of the murderous projects of their co-religionists in Britain; no mass-rallies of Muslims denouncing Islamicism; no call from within Muslim society for Muslims to join the army or police; and no unconditional and all-embracing campaign to extirpate murderous fundamentalism from within British Muslim society. Even "liberal" Muslims blame British foreign policy for Islamic terrorism in Britain, while remaining silent about the unspeakable Muslim-on-Muslim atrocities in Iraq. And many liberals in both the U.S.A. and Britain buy this tripe. You liberals ignore the horrors unleashed by the muslims; you let PC trump good sense. You do not demand any accounting from the muslim community. They will keep doing what they are doing because there are no consequences for their behaviors and tacit support of their fellow muslims. They yell discrimination when anyone has the affrontery to call them on their unquestioning acceptance of islam and sharia law. The muslims believe it is their time to dominate and rule the world. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2007-08-05 09:20 |
| #9 Unfortunately for the US a significant portion of our ruling class also "have a conscious animus against this country." That is why they push the agenda of Jihad. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-08-05 09:10 |
| #8 Now, whenever I write about immigration, the response is a bristling silence, as the binary-weight of physical fear and PC-conformism successfully suppresses debate on Ireland's future. Occasionally, one hears a little bleat, "You're not being helpful" - ah yes, the lily-livered whinge of unprincipled liberalism. Kevin has a way with words. The poetry of the Irish. Inviting hoardes of muslims into your midsts is like inviting cancer into your body. Eventually, it destroys you. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2007-08-05 09:10 |
| #7 Thank you NS for the ref to Powell. Thank you also Google. Enoch Powell spoke the truth on immigration BRITISH POLITICIAN Enoch Powell, a member of Parliament for 37 years, died on Sunday. Powell was a man of extraordinary ability, who had the courage to speak the truth on immigration. For this, he was driven from the Tory leadership and became known as the best prime minister Britain never had. The son of teachers, Powell won a scholarship to Cambridge, was a professor of Greek at 25, enlisted in the British army as a private at the outset of World War II and rose to the rank of brigadier general. A Thatcherite before Thatcher, Powell was a forceful intellectual and an eloquent speaker. On his death, Margaret Thatcher said: "There will never be anybody else so compelling as Enoch Powell. He had a rare combination of qualities all founded on an unfaltering belief in God, an unshakable loyalty to family and friends, and an unswerving devotion to our country." But Powell is best remembered for a controversial 1968 address warning of the dangers to national unity from immigration, which came to be known as the "Rivers of Blood" speech. Powell saw immigration from Britain's former colonies leading to an upsurge of crime and poverty and the fragmentation of British society. From his vantage point, the future looked bleak. "Like the Roman," Powell observed, "I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood." The Tory reaction was to brand him a racist. Powell was removed from Edward Heath's shadow cabinet and forever barred from the prime ministership. Conservatives have a long and depressing tradition of bludgeoning immigration skeptics. In 1993, Winston Churchill, grandson of Britain's wartime prime minister, made similar observations. Churchill noted that while immigrants accounted for 6 percent of the nation, in some cities they constituted half the population. Then-Prime Minister John Major, seeking to reassure the British, predicted that 50 years hence spinsters would still bicycle to communion on Sunday morning. "More likely the muezzin will be calling Allah's faithful to the High Main Street Mosque," Churchill countered. For integrity to match his namesake's, Churchill was excoriated by members of Major's cabinet. Among the tributes delivered on Powell's passing, William Hague, the current Tory leader, said, "Powell spoke his mind without fear or favor." When Lord Norman Tebbit spoke his, at the Conservative Party Conference last year, Hague's gang rushed to disown him. Tebbit didn't urge that immigration be curtailed, but merely warned of the dangers of multiculturalism. The children of immigrants "born here should be taught that British history is their history, or they will forever be foreigners holding British passports and this kingdom will become a Yugoslavia," Tebbit warned. "Tebbit gives the impression of intolerance," Hague's office clucked. "William Hague wants to build a multicultural society." Well, good luck to him, and God save the Queen. Still, Britain's immigration problems seem trifling next to our own. By the latest count, 9.2 percent of our population is foreign-born. In California, that figure rises to 25 percent. Due largely to immigration (at the rate of about 1.5 million a year, 90 percent non-white), Americans of European stock will decline from 73.6 percent of the population today to 52.8 percent in 2050. Augmenting the welfare rolls and crime statistics aren't the only contributions of newcomers. Like Enoch Powell, the more discerning among us see our national identity slipping through porous borders. In his monograph Huddled Cliches, Larry Auster warns: "In addition to the millions of people who see the United States as a candy store without a lock, a significant number of immigrants have a conscious animus against this country |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2007-08-05 08:49 |
| #6 And you were missed at the pub crawl. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-08-05 08:44 |
| #5 That was damn fast! Submitted, refreshed and it is in opinions! You mods rock! We exist to serve, 2x4. Well, when we're not at our day jobs or pub crawling or things like that ... ;-) |
| Posted by: lotp 2007-08-05 08:43 |
| #4 This was thought about 30 years ago by Enoch Powell vs the rest of Britain. The British made their decision and spent the next several decades feeling very superiour to the Americans and Rhodesians. Now the chickens are coming home. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-08-05 08:38 |
| #3 my parents are irish and i know for a fact that they wont put up with the shit us Londoners have to put up on a daily basis.Muslims create ghettos wherever they go as they are taught not to mix with infidels!!!! High unemployment,welfare culture is what they add to a new country.why take them????more negatives than positives.I wish Tony Blair could have thourght about this 10 years ago!!!!! |
| Posted by: Paul 2007-08-05 06:21 |
| #2 That was damn fast! Submitted, refreshed and it is in opinions! You mods rock! How about some other wishes, tempted to try. ;-) |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2007-08-05 06:05 |
| #1 PLS, shuffle into opinions. Misclicked, sorry. :8-( |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2007-08-05 06:03 |