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Time to try Iraq war leaders: Spanish judge
2007-03-21
MADRID - The judge who tried to jail Chile’s former dictator Augusto Pinochet said on Tuesday it was time to hold US President George W. Bush and his allies to account for waging war in Iraq. In an opinion piece in the newspaper El Pais, published on the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion, Spanish judge Baltasar Garzon said the war was ‘one of the most sordid and unjustifiable episodes in recent human history’.

‘We should look more deeply into the possible criminal responsibility of the people who are, or were, responsible for this war and see whether there is sufficient evidence to make them answer for it,’ Garzon wrote. ‘There is enough of an argument in 650,000 deaths for this investigation and inquiry to start without more delay,’ he said.
Oh dear, Seafarious is going to be quite upset about this. Yo, Judge, it isn't 650,000 deaths, it isn't criminal to remove a nasty, genocidal dictator, and we really don't care what you think, 'k?
Garzon, who became famous in 1999 when he tried to extradite Pinochet from Britain and try him for crimes against humanity, was particularly critical of the former Spanish government, a major backer of the Iraq invasion. ‘Those who joined the US president in the war against Iraq have as much or more responsibility than him because, despite having doubts and biased information, they put themselves in the hands of the aggressor to carry out an ignoble act of death and destruction that continues to this day,’ he said.

In February, Spain’s former leader Jose Maria Aznar said he now knew Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction but ‘the problem was not having been clever enough to know earlier.’ Garzon wrote: ‘If he didn’t know enough, he should be asked why he didn’t act prudently, giving United Nations inspectors more leeway instead of doing the opposite in total submission and fidelity to President Bush.’
Why not give the UN inspectors forever? Hans Blix sure could have used the time. Sheesh.
Gaspar Llamazares, head of the left-wing party Izquierda Unida, said he would present a motion to the Spanish parliament that leaders behind the war should face international tribunals. ‘People cannot be allowed to make decisions that cause hundreds of thousands of victims, fail to recognise their errors and not have to answer to a court,’ said Llamazares, whose party is allied to the ruling Socialist party.
But no one had the right to try Saddam, of course.
Garzon, who took a sabbatical last year to study international terrorism, ...
... that worked well, didn't it ...
... said the Iraq war had helped incite hatred and garner more support for terrorist training camps. ‘In some way, with a terrible lack of awareness, we have been and are helping this monster grow more and more and strengthen by the minute so it is probably invincible,’ he said.
Okay, Judge, you jumped the shark and your fifteen minutes are up. Back to divorce court for you!
Posted by:Steve White

#22  Start easy, OP. First denounce the Vichy government of Spain as not legitimate and withdraw our ambassador.

Note that Garzon hasn't tried to extradite Castro or Mugabe. Wonder why that is...
Posted by: Jackal   2007-03-21 21:32  

#21  The right to declare and institute a war against an enemy of a nation is one of several sovereign rights. This turd in a punchbowl wants to strip the United States of one of its sovereign rights. That is an act of war. I suggest we show our disapproval of Spain's behavior by pulling all our military from Spain, and running an arclight strike down through the heart of Madrid - on a Saturday afternoon. Let's see what Spain thinks about the rights of sovereign nations THEN.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-03-21 19:11  

#20  Just once we should try being as evil a GREAT SATAN as we are constantly painted as being.

Hell, evil could be fun!

Posted by: 3dc   2007-03-21 16:30  

#19  Steve S, Estoy estupefacto.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2007-03-21 16:19  

#18  i would just like too see the spanish police or army try too arrest bush. htye aren't worried about getting bombed by al queda but wanna mess with the US
Posted by: sinse   2007-03-21 16:00  

#17  Ima knew he was no good Sea. It's that extra work he does on his hair, it's a bad sign. You'll be okay, theren be another dashing prosecutor. Maybe. Well, it's technically possible anyway. In theory. On the next universe to the left.
Posted by: Shipman   2007-03-21 15:37  

#16  Tim Robbins is..."Garzon"! Coming soon to a theater near you...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-03-21 13:19  

#15  Tellya what Spain. If you folks weren't a bunch of yellow f*cking cowards who tucked tail and ran when your trains were bombed, I'd have alot easier time listening when you talk. As it is, just shut the hell up and crawl back to your hiding place. Leave the real world to those with a spine. It's too dangerous for you.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2007-03-21 13:17  

#14  Go check out Publiuspundit.com for pictures of the MASSIVE rally the oposition party had in Madrid against the Socialists.

The reason the Socialists want to arrest the opposition is because they would win a free election if it were held today.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2007-03-21 10:22  

#13  I'm shattered.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-03-21 09:48  

#12  Don't you dare touch our president!
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087   2007-03-21 09:44  

#11  We need to start going after guys like this. They are part of the enemy we fight.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-03-21 08:21  

#10   So now they're saying "650,000 deaths"?

That's just the ones killed by depleted Uranium.
Posted by: Clyde Threaling1504   2007-03-21 08:15  

#9  So now they're saying "650,000 deaths"? Why not just all-out and declare we've depopulated Iraq?
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2007-03-21 07:29  

#8  Whom the Gods wish to destroy...
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-03-21 06:54  

#7  In a demontration last Sunday organized by the socialist party the loudpeakers (ie it was not tyhe organization not a demonstrator) called for the illegalization of the opposition Party.

Spain is going the Venezuela way.
Posted by: JFM   2007-03-21 03:16  

#6  Judge Garzon is under a disciplanry investigation for his acts during the investigation of Madrid bombings.


It goes like that.

A high-ranking policemen produced a false analyis from explosives found. The theree experts who had done the rael analysis (BTW their conclusions didn't adjust to what the socilaist governemnt waants to heart) reported the falsification and Judge Garzon stepped in a filed (falsofication of official documents) where he has no authority and had the experts arrested in a highly irregular form (no lawyer assitance during the interrogatory, use of decalarations who had been done before they were told their rights).

The arbitrary arrest prolonged for weeks while Garzon used every trick legal and paralegal (going into a tour in South America) to keep the case in his handds and the experts in jail in face of the demands of the judge who had authority and should have been handling the case.

The experts were finally released (not by Garzon) and a three weeks ago the policve chief who falsifioed the documants has been formally accused of falsification and is awaiting trial.

I forgot: Judge Garzon has had a political carreer: number two in the socialist list for Madrid.
Posted by: JFM   2007-03-21 03:13  

#5  Spanish judge Baltasar Garzon demands a Show trial for President Bush.

Jizya boy?
Attention Whore?
or a full blown conversion to the Beslan Religion of Peace™?
Posted by: RD   2007-03-21 02:59  

#4  Ship, the tie must have been for St Paddy's Day :)
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2007-03-21 02:35  

#3  Em's green tie man is back!
Posted by: Shipman   2007-03-21 00:50  

#2  If the Muslim posterior that Garzon is kissing so enthusiastically would just bend over another degree or two, he'd be able to see daylight.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-03-21 00:37  

#1  Hear, hear! Because of the evil Bushitler, some 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq are no longer living under the boot heel of totalitarian thugs. That's gotta be some kind of internation crime, right? These are definitely the enlightened Euros we should be courting as 'allies'. I wonder how you say "I'm gobsmacked" in Spanish?
Posted by: SteveS   2007-03-21 00:26  

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