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Ban word 'terrorist' from U.S. trial, lawyer asks
2007-03-17
Defense lawyers want the word "terrorist" banned as too inflammatory in the U.S. trial of Jose Padilla and two other men charged with conspiring to aid Islamist extremists overseas. The word conjures up visions of someone with a bomb belt blowing up himself and others in a crowded cafe, ...
... well yes, that's one vivid image of a terrorist ...
... Jeanne Baker, an attorney representing co-defendant Adham Amin Hassoun, said during a hearing in the high-profile case on Friday. "The word terrorist has nothing to do with this case," Baker said. "The word terrorist is used to label an enemy."
Give Ms. Baker a prize, she's exactly right. Seeing as Mr. Padilla is on trial for exactly that, it does seem appropriate for the prosecution to allege that he's a terrorist and an enemy.
U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke, who has set trial for April 16, did not immediately rule on the request. But one of the prosecutors, Assistant U.S. Attorney John Shipley, noted during the hearing that "'Terrorist' has no standard definition."
It has several, in fact ...
Hassoun, Padilla and co-defendant Kifah Wael Jayyousi are accused of providing recruits and money to mujahideen warriors who conspired to murder, maim and kidnap people in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia and elsewhere during the 1990s. Mujahideen, or holy warriors, is a term for Islamic guerrilla groups. The word is used in the indictment but prosecutors want to call expert witnesses to explain the term and its relation to various groups, including al Qaeda.
Seems like Jose has managed to wiggle free of the post 9/11 charges, at least for now ...
Defense lawyers plan to call historians and a U.S. Army officer as experts to tell the jury that mujahideen groups are not synonymous with terrorists, and that their actions do not necessarily amount to murder.
It's just a Western construct, you see ...
They said the U.S. government has portrayed the Russian army as victims of mujahideen violence in Chechnya, and the Serbian and Croatian forces as victims of mujahideen "murderers" in Bosnia. Human rights groups and the U.S. State Department have criticized Russia's human rights record in Chechnya and the United Nations found that Bosnian Serb forces committed genocide against Bosnian Muslims.
Seems like the prosecution may be playing into the hands of the defense. If you buy that the Bosnian Muslims had a right to defend themselves, you can't get too upset that Jose is giving them money -- a mere technical violation. The more important point is that Jose is giving money and aid to people who want Americans dead, and to heck with the Bosnians, Russers, Chechers, etc. The issue is whether he was conspiring to kill his fellow Americans, and my understanding was that we had him dead to rights on that.
The defense lawyers want to tell the jurors about the 1995 massacre at Srebrenica, where Bosnian Serb forces killed thousands of Bosnian Muslim men and boys, and about crimes committed by Russian forces against Muslims in Chechnya. They suggested they would argue that the defendants had no intent to abet murders and that the groups they are accused of aiding may in fact have been fighting to defend fellow Muslims who were under attack. "You cannot just assume that when they killed, if they killed, it was murder," Baker said. "Defending Muslims is not committing murder."
Defending one's women and children isn't murder. But Jose isn't a Bosnian. We should be trying him for what he was planning to do to Americans.
Media attention on the case has focused largely on Padilla, a 36-year-old American citizen arrested in Chicago upon his return from Egypt and Pakistan in May 2002. He was accused of plotting to set off a radioactive bomb in the United States and President George W. Bush ordered him held as an "enemy combatant" in a military brig for 3-1/2 years.

While a challenge to Bush's authority to hold Padilla without charge was pending in the Supreme Court, Padilla was indicted in Florida on charges unrelated to any bombs. The judge has already ruled that Padilla is mentally fit to stand trial, but still must rule on a defense claim that the government's treatment of him was so outrageous the charges should be dropped.
Holding him in solitary isn't outrageous. If it is then there's plenty of guys in state pens who have a claim ...
Prosecutors contend that Hassoun recruited Padilla to attend an al Qaeda training camp, which Hassoun denies. All three defendants have pleaded innocent and would face life imprisonment if convicted on all the charges.
Posted by:Fred

#7  Why don't we just ban the word criminal or crime or justice.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087   2007-03-17 15:49  

#6  OK, how about "morally challenged"?
Posted by: gorb   2007-03-17 06:48  

#5  That's as may be, whatadeal, but this issue is far more important than the actual outcome of this single trial. Under no circumstances should it be permissible to "sanitize" the prosecuting bench's accusatory language in such a crippling fashion. This is Politically Correct Newspeak and it must be slapped down, and slapped down HARD, for the legal balderdash it is.

PS: Back atcha' Ip.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-03-17 01:29  

#4  Its not what they call Padilla, its the facts. If the jury begins to say, "That kinda stuff ain't gonna happen in my neighborhood," or, "I don't want that happening around here" then bad boy Padilla is going down. Show'em the facts,and the jurors' bullsh*t detectors will allow them to smell it out.
Posted by: whatadeal   2007-03-17 01:22  

#3  Just an excitable boy...
Posted by: mojo   2007-03-17 01:17  

#2  Ditto.

Nice to see you posting again Zen.
Posted by: Intrinsicpilot   2007-03-17 01:14  

#1  Holding him in solitary isn't outrageous.

ALL suspected and convicted terrorists should be held in solitary confinement. Especially so in light of how Islam is spreading like wildfire throughout America's prison populations. Islamists represent one of the single most dangerous breeds of psychopath in history.

How it is possible for the defense to seek curbs upon free speech in a court of law stands as conduct worthy of censure. It is as if they seek to ban the word "steal" at a thief's trial. Padilla has already been charged with unrelated terrorist activity and the fact that a pattern of conduct is emerging more than justifies describing him as a terrorist. Jeanne Baker must have apprenticed under Lynne Stewart.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-03-17 00:29  

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