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Novak: Murtha in Command
2007-02-19
After 16 undistinguished terms in Congress, Rep. John P. Murtha at long last felt his moment had arrived. He could not keep quiet the secret Democratic strategy that he had forged for the promised "second step" against President Bush's Iraq policy (after the "first step" of a nonbinding resolution of disapproval). In an interview last Thursday with the antiwar Web site MoveCongress.org, he revealed plans to put conditions on funding of U.S. troops. His message: I am running this show.

Indeed he is. Murtha and his ally House Speaker Nancy Pelosi were humiliated last Nov. 16 when the Democratic caucus overwhelmingly voted against Murtha as majority leader. Three months later, Murtha has shaped party policy that would cripple Bush's Iraq troop surge by placing conditions on funding. That represents the most daring congressional attempt to micromanage ongoing armed hostilities since the Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War challenged President Abraham Lincoln.
Posted by: KBK

#11  When's someone gonna WACK this ASSHOLE??
Posted by: ARMYGUY   2007-02-19 11:14  

#10  It appears that the old Marine Col., who lost the Viet Nam war wants to lose another one. Should I cry at his naive view of our enemies? Should I be appalled that the Dems look to him for leadership in a time of war?
Posted by: whatadeal   2007-02-19 22:36  

#9  He might like it.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2007-02-19 21:06  

#8  Well, as a compromise, how about using Nacny's whip on him?
Posted by: Jackal   2007-02-19 20:46  

#7  That represents the most daring congressional attempt to micromanage ongoing armed hostilities since the Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War challenged President Abraham Lincoln.

Oh, I think I beg to disagree.

I would think that the imposition of the War Powers Act is a far greater "congressional attempt to micromanage ongoing armed hostilities" than what the JCOtCotW ever tried.

Go here for a decent review,

http://www.civilwarhome.com/committee.htm

Here's the last paragraph,

The committees overall impact on Northern military operations is mixed. In some instances, it efforts had positive results. For instance, its investigations of light draught monitors, heavy ordnance, and ice contracts did expose waste, inefficiencies, and bureaucratic red tape. Its report on Union prisoners of war and the Fort Pillow massacre gave a much needed boost to Northern morale at a critical juncture of the war. At the same time, many of its investigations, particularly where the committee was successful in forcing Lincolns hand, had a negative impact on the war efforts. In many cases, the generals the committee endorsed were "correct" on the slavery issue, but militarily incompetent: Fremont and John Pope being two of the most obvious examples. Perhaps the biggest drawback to the committees work was its contribution to an atmosphere of jealousy and distrust among the nations elite officer corps--something that could only detract from waging war. Finally, in many investigations, the impact the committee had was neither positive nor negative. Hour after hour of testimony was taken, witness after witness was interviewed, yet nothing of practical value emerged. in many cases, the committees work was a waste of time, energy, and resources--something superfluous, something that detracted from the Unions ability to wage war. Committee members were motivated by patriotic and humanitarian sentiments; however, lack of military knowledge combined with too broad of an investigative latitude conspired to limit their usefulness to the Union war effort.
Source: "Encyclopedia of the American War" edited by David S. Heidler and Jeanne T. Heidler, article by Bruce Tap.


By comparison, the War Powers Act severely constrains the power of the POTUS to conduct military operations without reporting to Congress within specified periods of time.

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2007-02-19 19:19  

#6  Bad Armyguy, wack AQ muzzies, Coddle and concede to dimwit dems! Don't ya know we aint smurt enuff to be nuthin but soldgeers. Murtha says the truff! bremember he was once a dumb Marine, too stupid to do anyhting but go to war. (snark)
Posted by: 49 Pan   2007-02-19 18:07  

#5  Next time you mean cluebat, say so. Otherwise it looks a little more threatening, and as I explained last week, we don't do that around here.
Posted by: Steve White   2007-02-19 14:47  

#4  This the kind of thing that the veto was intended to oppose. The president has to sign spending bills, just like any other bill. If a bill comes to him without proper funds for current operations, it has to be vetoed, even if it means shutting down the government. (Although this might be exactly what the demonrats want.)
Posted by: Jonathan   2007-02-19 14:36  

#3  YA, that's right!!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY   2007-02-19 13:42  

#2  I'm assuming you are referring to wacking him with a Cluebat, ARMYGUY?
Posted by: Bobby   2007-02-19 12:41  

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Posted by: ARMYGUY   2007-02-19 11:14  

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