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Home Front: Politix
Passing Exchange Becomes Political Flashpoint
2007-01-13
A passing exchange during a Senate hearing on Thursday turned into a political flashpoint overnight as Senator Barbara Boxer, the California Democrat, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice accused one another of insensitivity in comments about motherhood and the war in Iraq.

In an interview with The New York Times on Friday, Ms. Rice suggested that Ms. Boxer had set back feminism by suggesting during the hearing that the childless Ms. Rice had paid no price in the Iraq war. “I thought it was O.K. to be single,” Ms. Rice said. “I thought it was O.K. to not have children, and I thought you could still make good decisions on behalf of the country if you were single and didn’t have children.”

Senator Boxer told Ms. Rice: “Who pays the price? I’m not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old and my grandchild is too young. You’re not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with an immediate family."
During the Thursday hearing, Senator Boxer told Ms. Rice: “Who pays the price? I’m not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old and my grandchild is too young. You’re not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with an immediate family. So who pays the price? The American military and their families. And I just want to bring us back to that fact.”

In an interview on Friday, Senator Boxer said her comments had been misunderstood and were now being turned against her by the White House and by Republicans. “What I was trying to do in this exchange was to find common ground with Condi Rice,” she said. “My whole point was to focus on the military families who pay the price.” Senator Boxer added: “I’m saying, she’s like me, we do not have families who are in the military. What they are doing is a really tortured way to attack a United States senator who voted against the war.”

The exchange between Senator Boxer and Ms. Rice came during a hostile Senate hearing in which Ms. Rice, seeking to sell President Bush’s new Iraq plan to a skeptical Congress, faced an almost solid wall of opposition from both Democrats and Republicans. Senator Boxer several times repeated the question, “Who pays the price?”

Senator Boxer read excerpts from a radio interview with an American family who had lost a son in Iraq. “You can’t begin to imagine how you celebrate any holiday or birthday,” she said. “There’s an absence. It’s not like the person’s never been there. They always were there and now they’re not, and you’re looking at an empty hole.”
As is Babs' wont, she focuses on the maudlin, rather than the issue, on feelings rather than on fact.
Ms. Rice replied, “I can never do anything to replace any of those lost men and women in uniform, or the diplomats, some of whom ——”

Senator Boxer cut her off. “Madam Secretary, please, I know you feel terrible about it. That’s not the point. I was making the case as to who pays the price for your decisions.”
The same people who pay the price for congressional decisions, which'd be all of us, of course. Babs' emphasis is on the anguish of the families of the fallen; Condi's emphasis on on the fact that we're at war with an inimical ideology that wants to destroy our civilization and enslave our children. Which has to take precedence, regardless of our tender feelings? Gee. Let me think...
During the hearing itself, Ms. Rice did not appear to take issue with Senator Boxer’s comments. During the interview, she addressed them only in response to a question. But the White House spokesman, Tony Snow, suggested earlier on Friday that Senator Boxer’s comments were antifeminist. “I don’t know if she was intentionally tacky,” Mr. Snow said in an interview on Fox News. “It’s a great leap backward for feminism.”

A number of members of Congress have children in the military who are serving in Iraq or are likely to do so, including Senators John McCain of Arizona and Jim Webb of Virginia.

Senator Boxer’s comments and the claims and counterclaims about what she meant have captivated the blogs and received extensive coverage on Fox News and other cable channels. One blog, called Swampland, labeled it “Womb Wars.” Conservative blogs and commentators were quick to seize on the issue. “One Great Leap (Backwards) for Womankind,” read one blog, Bikini Politics. “They will be known by their Fruits,” read another, Macsmind, which billed itself as “Conservative News, Commentary and Common Sense.”

Rush Limbaugh also got into the act. “Here you have a rich white chick with a huge, big mouth, trying to lynch this, an African-American woman, right before Martin Luther King Day, hitting below the ovaries here,” Mr. Limbaugh said on his radio show.

Deneen Borelli, a fellow with Project 21, which describes itself as a “leading voice in the African-American community,” said, “I am deeply appalled by Senator Barbara Boxer’s cruel and callous attack on Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.” “The debate should have been about the war in Iraq and not a platform to demean Secretary Rice,” Ms. Borelli said in a statement issued by the organization.

Some Democratic Senate staffers said Senator Boxer’s exchange with Ms. Rice allowed the Bush administration to turn the tables on Iraq critics and sidestep the larger issue of the almost uniform opposition to the president’s plan to send 20,000 more American soldiers to Iraq. There was no rush from Democrats to defend Senator Boxer, although one blogger on the Swampland blog called Senator Boxer’s comments “fair, as far as it goes.” During the interview with the Times, Ms. Rice said she had expected the skepticism that she received from Congress the day before. “I’ve been through things like this before,” she said.
Posted by:Fred

#9  You flatter me, SteveS. Unlike the honourable Senator (ha! no typo this time!), I've had the advantage of a Rantburg education -- and y'all are wonderful teachers.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-01-13 22:29  

#8  Dem Senators: top to bottom, useless bags of fecal matter devoid of any cognitive ability. They, as a group, are one of the best arguments for eugenics I've ever seen. And Biden deserves to be doing time in Leavenworth for treason.
Posted by: mac   2007-01-13 20:17  

#7  *note!* I voted against this flaming bag of shit
Posted by: Frank G   2007-01-13 17:23  

#6  If we do not win this war in the short run, her little grandchild will have no choice but to pay the price in the long run

How sad. A "mere housewife" gets it, but the honorable Senator doesn't have a clue. Of course, unlike the Senator, tw doesn't suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome and has no need to engage in partisan political posturing.
Posted by: SteveS   2007-01-13 16:41  

#5  Boxer's not fit to lick the bottom of Rice's boots.

I was thinking more along the lines of "Not fit to lick the week-old game on the bottom of Rices tennis shoes."
Posted by: Charles   2007-01-13 14:21  

#4  Boxer's not fit to lick the bottom of Rice's boots.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2007-01-13 12:04  

#3  The homourable Senator misses another key point: if we do not win this war in the short run, her little grandchild will have no choice but to pay the price in the long run, along with all its younger relatives, and its older ones, too. And that is what the childless Secretary of State is working to avoid.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-01-13 11:42  

#2  I agree with Fred, we all will pay the price in the long run. A few, for many.

Senator Boxer can always focus on specific personal losses; if that is her only measure of cost, then she is clearly not ready to pay any price herself to make tough decisions.
Pandering is for children, not adults.

Posted by: john   2007-01-13 10:32  

#1  Funny, that after insinuating for years now that Rice is a lesbian, all of a sudden no mention of that accusation. Which would of course mean that Barbara Boxer thinks lesbians are incapable of making hard decisions.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-01-13 09:49  

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