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Afghanistan could sound death knell for Nato, says Carrington
2006-12-17
The conflict in Afghanistan could sound the "death knell" for Nato, Lord Carrington, the organisation's former secretary general, has said. The former Conservative foreign secretary said Nato's future had been plunged into doubt by the refusal of so many of its members to send troops into the most dangerous areas in the south.

He said that it was "dangerous" that only Britain, America, Canada and the Netherlands had been willing to put their troops on the frontline against the Taliban. In an interview with GMTV — which will be broadcast tomorrow — Lord Carrington said that Afghanistan posed a grave threat to the organisation.

"I think it may be the death knell of Nato unless we're very careful," he said. "I think we ought to ask ourselves Â… what on earth Nato is for?"
What a great question. We've been asking that since the Soviet Union went poof in the night.
His concerns were shared by Lord Owen, the former Labour foreign secretary, who accused President Jacques Chirac of France, of undermining Nato. "Chirac's role in helping to destroy Nato, I think, is very considerable, in marked contrast to [the former French president Francois] Mitterrand."

"We can live with the different French view of Nato but I think the way that they are trying to always push European union instead of Nato is going to get the Americans to just say, 'well, to hell with it'."
And they just might succeed.
Posted by:3dc

#8  Thanks for the reference SR-71. This is a worthwhile read for everyone. I think this is very close to the truth. That's why we have to jump on this shit in airports and airplanes. We can't allow our freedom to be infringed. We can do everything we can collectively to stop this nonsense and keep these bastards off planes. How? If other airlines do not respond as US Air has, get up and leave the plane. Let them choose whether they cater to 250 paying customers or six assholes. Done several times, their decision will be easily made.
Posted by: SpecOp35   2006-12-17 21:38  

#7  Let it, and good riddance. If the West survives the latest Islamist assault, it will not be with any of the existing, antiquated alliances. I wonder if it will even be with the existing 'government' in Washington. Read Gates of Vienna:
The Government is Not Your Friend
Posted by: SR-71   2006-12-17 21:18  

#6  That he's welcome to Germany and France if he can get there without going through Poland.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-17 18:25  

#5  What kind of signal would that send Putin?

Posted by: Danking70   2006-12-17 18:19  

#4  "I think we ought to ask ourselves Â… what on earth Nato is for?"

It's to let France veto the use of American power.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-12-17 17:56  

#3  "...Nato's future had been plunged into doubt by the refusal of so many of its members to send troops into the most dangerous areas in the south."

That pretty much sums up all one really needs to know about the so-called "leaders" of most of Europe.

Posted by: Mark Z   2006-12-17 11:32  

#2  I look on it as a wonderful opportunity.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-17 11:23  

#1  Carrington's right. Most of the NATO members are hangers-on who contribute almost nothing. Screw them. Let them pony up the cash for their own defense from now on. They've been riding on our backs for too damned long.
Posted by: mac   2006-12-17 11:14  

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