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Home Front: Culture Wars
Nev. Politician: Let Teachers Carry Guns
2006-12-15
How about Tasers?
LAS VEGAS (AP) - A Nevada state senator and also-ran in this year's Republican primary for governor says the Legislature should consider letting teachers carry guns in classrooms to stem a rise in school violence.

"I would expect enough teachers would be interested so it would serve as a deterrent," said Sen. Bob Beers, R-Las Vegas. He said he's preparing a bill to introduce when state lawmakers convene in February.

While Beers said teachers would have to undergo firearm safety training, Las Vegas-area school officials said that allowing more weapons on campus would make schools less safe.

"The more people who have guns, the more likely it is that there will be a shootout," said Clark County school Superintendent Walt Rulffes. He told the Las Vegas Review-Journal he was aware of no studies supporting Beers' argument that schools would be safer if teachers carried guns.

School trustee Sheila Moulton said teachers might need more training to identify and deal with potentially violent students. But she rejected the idea of arming teachers.

"That is not the solution," Moulton said. "I'm not for putting guns in the classroom even when teachers are trained on how to use them."

Clark County school police carry weapons, and district high schools typically have two officers on campus during school hours. Some large middle schools also have armed police officers. The district is the fifth-largest in the nation, with more than 300,000 students at 325 campuses.

Beers cited reports of more than a dozen guns confiscated at Clark County school students so far this year, and several recent instances of gun violence on and off Las Vegas-area campuses.

"We have banned guns in schools in Nevada and most of the rest of the nation for the last 20 years," Beers said. "Part of the problem is a small percentage of the population is brought up without a knowledge of and respect for guns."
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#7  mac - my kids have attended Santana High in Santee, CA, where we had a fatal shooting (my daughter was in the hallway when it happened, her 16th birthday, and the lil shithead was in her class). The School district HAS a two strikes policy. One strike - you're sent to Chaparral HS, a "reform" school. Another and you're gone - GED/homeschool material
Posted by: Frank G   2006-12-15 20:49  

#6  mac, two words. Parental Responsibility.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-12-15 19:50  

#5  While I'm not at all opposed to letting teachers carry on school grounds, we need to address the problem at its source. It's the one or two percent of punk SOBs in high school who need expulsion ASAP. Make it MUCH easier to toss these bastards out into juvie hall/correctional school with no right of return and the problems will radically diminish.

Notice that Catholic schools NEVER have these problems? It's because they have a two-strikes policy; first time an offender is in the principal's office, he/she's told there won't be a second time. Second time, they're OUT. Permanently. Period, end of story. Do that with the public schools and the problem will all but go away. Send a message that there won't be any tolerance for this behavior and most of the would-be badasses will straighten up. The rest are incorrigible and will probably end up in prison anyhow.

I'm angry that we are spending so much time and money on these worthless jerks. We should first remember that we owe something to the kids who are trying to learn. These bad apples make that much more difficult and the sooner they are gone, the sooner the real business of the schools will be able to proceed.

There are a LOT of reasons that the homeschooling movement is taking off like a rocket in America but the fear of school violence is definitely close to, if not at, the top of the list. If this isn't addressed effectively, it won't be too many years until the entire concept of tax-supported public schools comes into such disrepute that the public will no longer be willing to fund them.

One last thing: this is, at bottom, a national security issue. Living in South Korea, I see, every night at 10:30 P.M., the big crowd of high school students leaving their high school. They've been there since 8 A.M. Some of the ones leaving at that time are going to yet ANOTHER school for further tutoring. This is the competition our kids are going to be facing. We need to jack our academic performance up DRASTICALLY to have even a hope of staying within hailing distance of these folks. Worrying about the screwup worthless punk bastards at the expense of students who are really trying is an expense we simply can't afford, not if we really intend to stay competitive in an increasingly complex world.
Posted by: mac   2006-12-15 19:38  

#4  My Catholic school friends said the nuns did just fine with those steel edged rulers. The really good ones could take off a hand...
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-15 08:55  

#3  Why not stop asking schools to serve as prisons and teachers as prison guards?
Posted by: Perfesser   2006-12-15 07:52  

#2  Remembering some of the things I did in school, and some of the teachers we had, I strongly disagree.
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-12-15 06:54  

#1  "Justified" ANTI-AMER AMERICAN SOCIALISM = the probs have to get worse so that Gubmint can save us all but then take away everything "for our own good".
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-12-15 01:18  

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