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Home Front: Culture Wars
Carter Ducks Debate With Dershowitz
2006-12-15
It seemed like a good idea at the time: Have former president Jimmy Carter talk about his controversial new book "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid" at Brandeis University. But the idea ended, as many things on Carter's tumultuous nationwide book tour have, in disagreement and controversy.

Brandeis president Jehuda Reinharz said he agreed with a trustee's suggestion to invite Carter last month, if Carter were willing to debate one of his most outspoken critics, Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz.

Carter, president from 1977-1981, vehemently rejected the idea. To Carter, the episode was proof that many in the United States were unwilling to hear an alternative view on what he says is the most taboo foreign-policy issue in the United States, Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory.

But others say it shows that Carter himself is unwilling to debate his own best-selling book, which has sparked allegations of errors and omissions, charges of anti-Israel bias, and protests at his book signings. "President Carter said he wrote the book because he wanted to encourage more debate; then why won't he debate?" Dershowitz said.
Silly man, he doesn't want you to debate, he wants you to agree with him.
Carter, who brokered the 1978 Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt and who received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, has said the goal of the book, including its provocative title, is to provoke dialogue and action. "There is no debate in America about anything that would be critical of Israel," he said in an interview Wednesday night.

But a furor has erupted because of the use of the word apartheid, which seems to equate the oppression of Palestinians with that endured by black South Africans under that country's now-defunct system of state-mandated racial segregation.
It doesn't 'seem' to equate the two, it makes the comparison explicit.
Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a leading Jewish human rights organization, said Carter "should be ashamed of himself." And Kenneth W. Stein, one of Carter's former aides, dropped his association with the Carter Center in Atlanta, a human rights organization founded by the former president and his wife Rosalynn.

But Carter said: "Apartheid is the forced separation of two peoples in the same area and the forced subjugation of one to the other. No one can argue that that is not the situation in the Palestinian territories right now."

Others have praised the 39th president for raising important questions about the cost of the United States' unwavering support for Israel. His book tour is being chronicled by the same producer who made an "An Inconvenient Truth," which focused on global warming and featured Al Gore. The film about Carter will be titled "He Comes in Peace."
And it'll be an Oscar nominee, you heard it here first.
Posted by:Raj

#16  #7: Melanie Morgan has an article on wnd.com. The title of the article, "Jimmy Carter:Human Scum."

I must strongly object to that characterization of Jimmuh.

There's nothing human about him.

(And she shouldn't insult scum that way, either.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-12-15 23:49  

#15  Deacon - does it come with its own killer wabbit?
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-12-15 22:46  

#14  peanut
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-12-15 18:40  

#13  Carter has his head so far up his old ass it. stopped being funny a long time ago. Alan Dershowitz is a liberal, Carter can't even debate a fellow leftender. Carter is wrong and he knows it. Some of the stuff in this book has been called outright lies. Carter you fail it.

The truth is the Paleos can't be dealt with in a normal way, like many Arabs they just can be held to their word or expected to abide by agreements they have made. The shit hole they live in is of their own making.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-12-15 15:51  

#12  I wonder how the guys on the USS Jimmy Carter feel.

They were stupid to start naming vessels after living people.

Posted by: Penguin   2006-12-15 14:58  

#11  ...and an update from the Great and Powerful Oz himself

BOSTON - Former President Carter turned down a request to debate Alan Dershowitz about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, saying the outspoken Harvard law professor "knows nothing about the situation."

Carter, author of a new book advocating "peace not apartheid" in the region, said he will not visit Brandeis University to discuss the book because the university requested he debate Dershowitz.

"I don't want to have a conversation even indirectly with Dershowitz," Carter said in Friday's Boston Globe. "There is no need ... to debate somebody who, in my opinion, knows nothing about the situation in Palestine."

The school's debate request, Carter said, is proof that many in the United States are unwilling to hear an alternative view on the nation's most taboo foreign policy issue, Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory.

Carter brokered the 1978 Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt and received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002. He said the goal of his book, "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," is to provoke dialogue and action.

"There is no debate in America about anything that would be critical of Israel," he said.

The reference to "apartheid," the word for South Africa's former system of state-sanctioned racial segregation, has angered some rabbis because it appears to equate that system with the treatment of Palestinians.

"President Carter said he wrote the book because he wanted to encourage more debate; then why won't he debate?" said Dershowitz, a vocal First Amendment advocate who has worked for O.J. Simpson and other high-profile clients.

Brandeis was founded in 1948 as a nonsectarian university under the sponsorship of the American Jewish community. Carter said he initially was interested in going there.

"I thought it would be a good idea to go to a campus that had a lot of Jewish students and get a lot questions," he said. But then the initial proposal evolved into a plan for a debate.


He's an even bigger pussy then I thought. And I thought he was a real big one...
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-15 14:53  

#10  Looks like ya stepped in it this time, Jimmah. About neck deep....
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-15 14:44  

#9  For the left, a genuine debate means a discussion between

1. a white male leftist
2. a white female leftist
3. a black leftist
4. a hispanic leftist
5 a disable leftist
6. a G/L/T leftist

now that's diversity
Posted by: mhw   2006-12-15 14:42  

#8  But Carter said: "Apartheid is the forced separation of two peoples in the same area and the forced subjugation of one to the other. No one can argue that that is not the situation in the Palestinian territories right now."

Um, is it just me, or haven't the Joooos already left a lot of the "Palestinian territories, so now they're turning on each other? Oh, I guess red on red violence is still "apartheid" laid at the feet of the Jooos. Jeebus, I'm so ashmaed this pr!ck is from my Home State.
Posted by: BA   2006-12-15 13:39  

#7  Melanie Morgan has an article on wnd.com. The title of the article, "Jimmy Carter:Human Scum."
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-12-15 13:11  

#6  Jimmuh was, is, and likely always will be, a callow shallow vindictive asshole.
Posted by: OldSpook   2006-12-15 13:03  

#5  Best thing to come out of that family was Billy Beer, and it was a low class brew.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-12-15 12:45  

#4  Carter, president from 1977-1981

Hey, don't remind us. Yeah, we did it, but by the time we came to our senses, it was too late.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-12-15 12:14  

#3  Coward. Bring your lies to any forum that isn't packed with paleo flag-wavers, and you'll get your clock cleaned.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-12-15 12:09  

#2  LOL. IIRC, the other day Carter was quoted saying he was sad that he couldn't get a speaking gig on any campus with a large jewish student population or some such. Anyone else recall that or do I hate Carter so much my mind is playing ticks on me?
Posted by: Mark Z   2006-12-15 11:43  

#1  "President Carter said he wrote the book because he wanted to encourage more debate; then why won't he debate?" Dershowitz said.

Well, it looks your first mistake, Al, was assumming that he actually meant it.
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-15 11:17  

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