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Maya say Gibson movie portrays them as savages
2006-12-07
The Age of Organized Touchiness.
GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - Much like his bloody epic about the death of Christ, a new Mel Gibson production about the collapse of the Mayan civilization is angering members of the culture it depicts even before it hits the screen. The "Passion of Christ" was accused by some of being anti-Semitic -- long before Gibson's career-damaging outbursts against a Jewish policeman in Malibu this year.

Now indigenous activists in Guatemala, once home to a large part of the Mayan empire that built elaborate jungle cities in southern Mexico and northern Central America centuries ago, say his film "Apocalypto" is racist.

Gibson's representatives were not immediately available for comment.

Only trailers for "Apocalypto," which will be released on Friday, have been shown in Guatemala, but leaders say scenes of scary-looking Mayans with bone piercings and scarred faces hurling spears and sacrificing humans promote stereotypes about their culture. "Gibson replays, in glorious big budget Technicolor, an offensive and racist notion that Maya people were brutal to one another long before the arrival of Europeans and thus they deserved, in fact, needed, rescue," said Ignacio Ochoa, director of the Nahual Foundation that promotes Mayan culture.

At their height, the Maya built monumental cities in the Peten region of Guatemala, but the civilization went into decline after the 8th century, some say because of overuse of natural resources. The culture is not thought to have been as blood-thirsty as the neighboring Aztec empire, but some archeologists say human sacrifice was common in the final years before the Spanish conquest.

More than half of Guatemala's population is descended from the original Maya. They face frequent discrimination and most live in poverty with little access to education and social services.

Over 200,000 people, mostly Mayan, were killed during Guatemala's 36-year civil war that ended a decade ago. Some rights groups say the army tried to wipe out the Maya.

Lucio Yaxon, a 23-year-old Mayan human rights activist, said Apocalypto's heart-pounding trailer was unrealistic. "Basically the director is saying the Mayans are savages," said Yaxon, who speaks Kaqchikel, one of 22 Guatemalan Mayan languages, as well as Spanish.

But Richard Hansen, an archeologist who Gibson consulted on the making of the film, says the director took pains to ensure authenticity and historical accuracy.

The entire script is spoken in Yucatec Maya and the star is a Native American dancer named Rudy Youngblood. Gibson's use of indigenous actors has won praise from Latino and Native American groups in the United States.

"I am a little apprehensive about how the Maya themselves are going to perceive it," said Hansen, who directs an archeological project at the Mirador Basin in northern Guatemala, "but Gibson is trying to make a social statement."
Boy Scouts they weren't. Let them sink back into the muck of history if they prefer.
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#16  I like to point out that the Conquistadores were mercenaries who had fought in some of the bloodiest, nastiest and most merciless combat Europe had seen for quite a while. But when they arrived in the new world, what they saw was so utterly horrifying, so unabashedly murderous, and carnage on such scale that the clear and unambiguous feeling among them was "This must be destroyed."

I do believe that at one point Cortez and his men had ~40,000 native soldiers from other city states who helped them against the Aztecs.

The Aztecs were not well liked by their neighbors.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2006-12-07 15:15  

#15  I prefer to be called a noble savage, thank you very much. All kidding a side. Now-a-days everyone looks to be offended. These people have got to be running low on I.Q. - unless their still performing human sacrifices to Quatzylcatyl or whatever then the moccasin fits, either way they need to lighten up....it's called a period piece morons!
Posted by: Broadhead6   2006-12-07 14:59  

#14  Yer all amateur pikers. Oh, and all this land, all of it, belongs to me 'n my tribe. You can have the swampy bits of Der Nederlands and the crusty bits created by Kilaueia, that shit's new.
/Alley Oop
Posted by: .com   2006-12-07 14:11  

#13  I like to point out that the Conquistadores were mercenaries who had fought in some of the bloodiest, nastiest and most merciless combat Europe had seen for quite a while. But when they arrived in the new world, what they saw was so utterly horrifying, so unabashedly murderous, and carnage on such scale that the clear and unambiguous feeling among them was "This must be destroyed."

It is rare that a soldier sees something so repugnant, so evil, that they are willing to sacrifice their very lives so that it might be destroyed. But this was one of those times.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-12-07 14:07  

#12  Except for that Revolution thingy, I wuz gonna say DA FRENCH, CS!
Posted by: BA   2006-12-07 14:03  

#11  I heard that he once portrayed the Scots as savages and the English and the Irish. Gosh I think that just about EVERY culture was savage at one time. Welcome to the savage world my mayan friends. If someone knows a culture that at one time didn't act savage please point them out to me.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-12-07 13:15  

#10  "Um, yeah...but what's your point?"
Posted by: mojo   2006-12-07 12:29  

#9  lol, Depot. Quite the mental image I just had there, lol!
Posted by: BA   2006-12-07 10:17  

#8  The next time Gibson gets pulled over he better pray the cops arenÂ’t Mayan.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2006-12-07 10:12  

#7  Hmmm...ah...scratch...you're right. Got to get another shot of coffee.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2006-12-07 10:01  

#6  The boggy man, Procop? Is that likey "Swamp Thing" or something?
Posted by: BA   2006-12-07 09:49  

#5  When I see the word "indigenous" in a story, I consider it my personal signal to move along, as I already know what will follow....
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-07 09:30  

#4  Maya say Gibson movie portrays them as savages

Um, they were.

So were my ancestors. Gettin' nekkid, painted blue and waving swords about does not sound civilized to me, and I wouldn't get all whiny if somebody made a movie about them.

In fact, it would be pretty cool.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2006-12-07 09:26  

#3  What people weren't savages at one time? Stonehenge wasn't designed at MIT.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-07 09:26  

#2  Maya say Gibson movie portrays them as savages

Well, welcome to the tribe buddy. We've been putting up with the same image assassination for a half century. To paraphrase a Greek moralist, it all depends upon who's ox is being gored doesn't it. Guess Hollywood is running out of the white European Nazis to flog as the boggy man in order to turn a profit.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2006-12-07 08:34  

#1  I am stunned is someone saying Gibson's is racist!

Posted by: Bernardz   2006-12-07 07:41  

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