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| Bishop attacks 'victim' Muslims |
| 2006-11-05 |
| THE Church of England’s only Asian bishop, whose father converted from Islam, has criticised many Muslims for their “dual psychology”, in which they desire both “victimhood and domination”. In the most outspoken critique of Muslims by a church leader, Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, said that because of this view it would never be possible to satisfy all their demands. “Their complaint often boils down to the position that it is always right to intervene when Muslims are victims, as in Bosnia or Kosovo, and always wrong when the Muslims are the oppressors or terrorists, as with the Taliban or in Iraq,” said Nazir-Ali. “Given the world view that has given rise to such grievances, there can never be sufficient appeasement and new demands will continue to be made.” The failure to counter such beliefs meant that radical Islam had flourished in Britain, spread by extremist imams indoctrinating children for up to four hours a day, he said. Nazir-Ali added that rigorous checks, from which the government had retreated in face of Muslims’ protests, should be imposed to ensure that arriving clerics were committed to the British way of life. “Characteristic British values have developed from the Christian faith and its vision of personal and common good,” said the bishop in an interview with The Sunday Times. “After they were clarified by the enlightenment they became the bedrock of our modern political life. These values need to be recovered to help us to inculcate the virtues of generosity, loyalty, moderation and love.” Nazir-Ali, who was born in Pakistan and whose father converted from Islam to Catholicism, said radical Islam was being taught in mosque schools across Britain. “While radical teaching may not be happening everywhere, its presence is felt across the country. It affects all Muslims,” he said. “The two main causes of the present situation [rising extremism] are fundamentalist imams and material on the internet.” |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #9 The same psychology applies to liberals and progressives. true. |
| Posted by: anon 2006-11-05 13:15 |
| #8 my email below to the Rev- I have to applaud you and open British eyes that these muslims whether Radical or Moderate seek Global domination. I dont know how they are to achieve this only through their bigger birthrate but their weakness is their economic lookout.Most muslims claim benefits whilst slagging of the country.Cut the welfare state and these people would look for another country.They want the best of both worlds a free house,car etc but to also dictate their laws etc.They are the only religion i know who openly spout hated of other religions.As a Christian i never was taught to hate other religions.Can you say the same in Pakistan Saudi or Iran???? Please open the British eyes to the danger within where they secretly go about their plans of controlling inner city ares where they look to have sharia |
| Posted by: Slinetle Unasing8609 2006-11-05 11:53 |
| #7 THE Church of England’s only Asian bishop, whose father converted from Islam, has criticised many Muslims for their “dual psychology”, in which they desire both “victimhood and domination”. The same psychology applies to liberals and progressives. |
| Posted by: USMC6743 2006-11-05 11:35 |
| #6 Not exactly right: they have no complaints when the victims are Muslim so long as the perpretrators are Muslim as well, When Arabic-speaking Muslims slaughter and rape non-Arabic speaking Muslims (especially if those non-Arabs have black skin), well, that's just fine. Witness Darfur. |
| Posted by: Pagan Infidel 2006-11-05 11:08 |
| #5 Thanks Zen, I just wrote to him. Money quote: “Their complaint often boils down to the position that it is always right to intervene when Muslims are victims, as in Bosnia or Kosovo, and always wrong when the Muslims are the oppressors or terrorists, as with the Taliban or in Iraq,” said Nazir-Ali. |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2006-11-05 10:33 |
| #4 I've sent an email as well. He really nails down the muslim victim pathology |
| Posted by: john 2006-11-05 09:06 |
| #3 Here is a contact link to the Right Reverend Nazir-Ali's organization 101pakistantis.com. Scroll down to the contact form. I urge all Rantburgers to send this man messages of support so that he might have some help through the storm of controversy which is such to follow such an unvarnished assessment of British Muslims. Here is the text of my own message: (800 characters max including spaces) Dear Right Reverend Nazir-Ali – (Re: Sunday Times 4/XI/06) - On behalf of Americans who are deeply concerned about Islam’s incursion upon British culture, allow me to applaud your superb summary of Muslim hypocrisy. I commend you for having done Britain a huge favor in stating the unvarnished truth. - Islam’s present course only increases the danger for all Muslims worldwide. If its predation upon the West goes unabated without genuine doctrinal reform, there will likely be a nuclear Muslim holocaust. Islam’s refusal to renounce terrorism, halt abject gender apartheid, end pursuit of global sharia law and give up imposition of dhimmitude makes it utterly incompatible with all free cultures. - In closing, your courage and integrity are much appreciated. Warmest Regards, Signature |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-11-05 02:18 |
| #2 FINALLY, A BRITISH CLERGYMAN WITH A THE Church of England’s only Asian bishop, whose father converted from Islam, has criticised many Muslims for their “dual psychology”, in which they desire both “victimhood and domination”. In the most outspoken critique of Muslims by a church leader, Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, said that because of this view it would never be possible to satisfy all their demands. “Their complaint often boils down to the position that it is always right to intervene when Muslims are victims, as in Bosnia or Kosovo, and always wrong when the Muslims are the oppressors or terrorists, as with the Taliban or in Iraq,” said Nazir-Ali. “Given the world view that has given rise to such grievances, there can never be sufficient appeasement and new demands will continue to be made.” This needs to be trumpeted from every doorway throughout Britain. Nazir-Ali has nailed the duplictous and hypocritical nature of Islam absolutely SPOT ON! 1.) The "dual psychology" of victimhood and domination. 2.) Their insatiable demands for preferential treatment. 3.) The mandate to assist Muslim victims while demanding we ignore Muslim tyranny. 4.) The absolute inadequacy of any and all appeasment. This is the formula of Islamic domination writ large. Use these terms in your arguments when this topic is discussed. These are the tools by which to identify the perfidy of Islam. Ignore them and they will be used against you with increasing brazeness. So long as individuals like Nazir-Ali can articulate the threat so lucidly, there will still be some hope for Britain. Should he be silenced by church or governmental authorities, we shall know that the surrender is complete. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-11-05 01:03 |
| #1 He better be careful - the Archdruid of Canterbury will have him tossed from the Anglican Church. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2006-11-05 00:27 |