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| 2006-10-27 |
| Hat tip: GOC Edited for brevity. Fill in the blank: By the year _____, the country had grown weary of the long and bloody ____ War. _____ thousand of the countries' best and bravest young men had fallen on the fields of _____. Many began to think that the war was not worth it, and the price of freedom too great. The Republican Presidential Candidate ____________ thought no price was too great for _________. Unfortunately, after _____ long years of war, _____'s support was dropping fast, and people were looking for a way out of the war. If you thought this was written about President Bush and the Iraq War, you would be mistaken. This paragraph depicts the political climate in America 142 years ago... and describes the challenges that faced a different Republican President during a different US War. Go to the link for much more, including a contemporary Democratic poster that, with a little Photoshopping, represents their outlook (and CNN's outlook) today. |
| Posted by:Dar |
| #13 Small bones to pick with Darrell's excellent post about Vietnam. US involvement in VN started under Eisenhower (originally in support of the French), with the big escalation under Johnson. Involvement continued and deepened under Kennedy, but not dramatically. I don't see how either the war or US involvement can br said to have started between '61 and '63. Also, the war ended under Ford. The '73 agreement with the North under Nixon drastically reduced but didn't end the US role - the North's invasion in violation of the agreement ended it two years later. |
| Posted by: Jeretle Craimp7451 2006-10-27 21:43 |
| #12 Actually the French were in there, too, lol. Which side were you on, Rob? :-) |
| Posted by: .com 2006-10-27 20:06 |
| #11 * George Washington: war with Native Americans in Ohio And believe me, we're still pissed over that one. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2006-10-27 20:02 |
| #10 It would be even more telling to read the statements of the Copperheads of the North who were more than willing to trade "slavery for peace". They were blood brothers with such southerners as George Fitzhugh, who wrote the book "Cannibals All! Or Slaves without Masters". It was more than just a defense of slavery, it was a proto-socialist statement that slavery was such a good that 90% of mankind should be slaves. It is still in print, BTW. It is a worthwhile read, as it gives a formative look into the mind-set behind socialism. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2006-10-27 18:43 |
| #9 Just from reading this list, it's apparent that war is not just 'diplomacy by other means', but it's really a constant, like time and gravity. Dovetails nicely with the hard left moonbat's refusal to acknowledge certain aspects of reality, because they can't / won't view wars that way. |
| Posted by: Raj 2006-10-27 18:39 |
| #8 I'd say, LH - the adults have cleaned up the mess left by the Left |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-10-27 17:48 |
| #7 Lol - should've refreshed - I've been digging like Li'l Kimmie thru Wikipedia looking everyone up, heh. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-10-27 17:25 |
| #6 From the same source: Federalist presidents * George Washington * John Adams Democratic (or earlier, Democratic-Republican) presidents * Thomas Jefferson * James Madison * James Monroe * Andrew Jackson * Martin Van Buren * James Polk * Franklin Pierce * James Buchanan * Andrew Johnson * Grover Cleveland * Woodrow Wilson * Franklin Roosevelt * Harry Truman * John Kennedy * Lyndon Johnson * Jimmy Carter * Bill Clinton Whig presidents * William Henry Harrison * John Tyler * Zachary Taylor * Millard Fillmore Republican presidents * Abraham Lincoln * Ulysses Grant * Rutherford Hayes * James Garfield * Chester Arthur * Benjamin Harrison * William McKinley * Theodore Roosevelt * William Taft * Warren Harding * Calvin Coolidge * Herbert Hoover * Dwight Eisenhower * Richard Nixon * Gerald Ford * Ronald Reagan * George Bush * George W. Bush Presidents belonging to no party * John Quincy Adams Presidents who changed party affiliation after their presidency * Millard Fillmore (Whig) became a candidate for the American or Know-Nothing Party. * Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) founded the Progressive or Bull Moose Party. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2006-10-27 16:58 |
| #5 Thx, Darrell! Waaay fast! Hmmm... separating out the navel fluff from the true dust bunnies... |
| Posted by: .com 2006-10-27 16:57 |
| #4 and in those days, Republican run congressional committees were highly critical of the running of the war. So is your point that they should have cut and run? |
| Posted by: anon 2006-10-27 16:55 |
| #3 President Lincoln fired his first Secretary of War, and went through several commanding generals. He wasnt afraid to say when things were well and truely f***ed up. and in those days, Republican run congressional committees were highly critical of the running of the war. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-10-27 16:53 |
| #2 Presidents during wartime * George Washington: war with Native Americans in Ohio * Thomas Jefferson: Tripolitan War, 1800-1805, against the Barbary pirates * James Madison - War of 1812, 1812-1814, against the British * James Monroe - First Seminole War, 1817-1818 * Andrew Jackson - Black Hawk War, 1832 * Martin Van Buren - Aroostook War, 1839; Second Seminole War - ended 1842 * William Henry Harrison - Second Seminole War - ended 1842 * John Tyler - Second Seminole War - ended 1842 * James Polk - Mexican War * James Buchanan - beginning of the Civil War * Abraham Lincoln - Civil War, 1861-1865 * William McKinley - Spanish-American War, 1898; Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1900 * Woodrow Wilson - WWI, 1914-1918 * Warren Harding - formally concluded WWI * Franklin Roosevelt - WWII, 1941-1945 * Harry Truman - conclusion of WWII, Korean War - 1950-1953 * Dwight Eisenhower - conclusion of Korean War * John Kennedy - Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961; beginning of Vietnam War * Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam War, Dominican Republic, 1965 * Richard Nixon - Vietnam War * Ronald Reagan - Grenada Invasion, 1983 * George Bush - Invasion of Panama, 1989-1990; Persian Gulf War, 1990-1991 * George W. Bush - War against the Taliban, Iraq, 2001 to present. http://www.heptune.com/preslist.html |
| Posted by: Darrell 2006-10-27 16:53 |
| #1 Does anyone know a source (I'm too lazy to do it) where we can find out who was Pres at the start, and at the "end" (heh), of every war the US has been in? How many were Donks, how many Pubs, how many Mull Boose, you know what I mean... Might be interesting. TIA. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-10-27 16:48 |