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It's so complex: Astronomer Says Eid Will Be Monday
2006-10-21
Eid Al-Fitr, the celebration marking the end of fasting in Ramadan, will be Monday, according to Khaled ibn Saleh Al-Zaaq, member of Arab Space Science Federation and supervisor of Buraidah Astronomical Observatory. In a statement carried by Al-Eqtisadiah newspaper, Al-Zaaq said it would be impossible to sight the Shawwal crescent today (Saturday) as it will disappear one hour before the sunset.
Arab Space Science Federation. Okay, I feel my boggle stirring.
“We can only see the new moon on Monday evening with difficulty as it will be visible for only 36 minutes with a glow of 1.90 percent,” said Al-Zaaq, who is also a member of the Islamic Project to Observe the Crescent. He urged the public not to be confused by seeing celestial bodies on Saturday evening.
Islamic Project to Observe the Crescent. Oh yeah, boggle's gettin' stronger.
Ali Manikfan, an Indian expert on moon sighting, also confirmed that Monday would be the first day of Eid. “I have observed the waning phases of the moon in the last days of Ramadan. Yesterday morning I could see the crescent at about 8 a.m. It was about 25 degrees away from the sun. The crescent will be visible today (Saturday) before sunrise. This will be the last visible phase of the moon for Ramadan,” Manikfan said in a statement.
Well, that settles it. Sorta. He is just an Indian, after all, not of the Master "Race".
“Sunday morning the crescent will not be seen even though it will rise before the sun. This is the day on which the moon phase is not visible to the earth. Somewhere in the world both the sun and the moon will rise together on Sunday,” said Manikfan, who is a staunch advocate of a unified Islamic calendar.
Who sez they're not a Moon Cult?
[He] called upon Muslims all over the world to celebrate Eid Al-Fitr on the same day. He urged the Organization of the Islamic Conference to unify the Islamic calendar.
We should all do this on the same day. It's much more, um, impressive 'n stuff.
“Eid Al-Fitr should be celebrated on the first day of the lunar month of Shawwal. Muslims around the world are now celebrating it on three different days due to the lack of a unified calendar,” he told Arab News.
Very unimpressive.
Manikfan urged Muslims to adopt modern technological methods to sight crescent.
Muzzy Luddites!
“Islam is the most advanced and scientific religion. It’s impossible to believe that the Prophet (pbuh) would instruct his followers in this age of science and technology to search for the new moon with their naked eyes when lunar and solar dates can be determined in advance on the basis of scientific calculations,” he said. He hoped that Saudi Arabia would take the lead and prepare a unified Islamic calendar for distribution in all Muslim countries.
And now my boggle is fully restored... overflowin', even.
Posted by:.com

#18  Islam is the most advanced and scientific religion.

YJCMTSU! Witness the monumental hubris of those who are most likely to be incinerated in history's largest nuclear bombardment.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-10-21 22:24  

#17  "ItÂ’s impossible to believe that the Prophet (pbuh) would instruct his followers . . . when lunar and solar dates can be determined in advance on the basis of scientific calculations.”

Hoo boy, an apostate! Muslim invaders used to burn libraries to the ground, on the basis that all knowledge needed by mankind is in the Koran. If it ain't in there, mankind wasn't meant to have it, so all knowledge external to the the Koran is heretical and evil and should be destroyed.

But who knows, the poo-bahs at Al-Azhar probably have serious debates about whether precision calculations are haram -- along with whether to use leather belts or sacks of oranges to beat their wives.
Posted by: exJAG   2006-10-21 17:57  

#16  Eid,

ima gunna space it out this year.. entirely, okay now I feel my boggle stirring! so solly.

>::
Posted by: RD   2006-10-21 13:43  

#15  Sorry - the Violent Fits of Fitr. Trampede is December.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-10-21 10:45  

#14  Hummm... please, do tell, when exactly will the traditional end-of-ramadan riots will begin? The french police is already on high alert, no kidding.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-21 10:44  

#13  I've ordered in extra popcorn and Tubourg for the annual Trampede.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-10-21 10:44  

#12  It was about 25 degrees away from the sun.

Oh yeah, there's some good Islamic Science.
Posted by: Parabellum   2006-10-21 10:26  

#11  And just think, they're planning to launch an Islamic satellite, per articles from a couple of RamLamas ago, so they can be extra certain about Islamic Space Science Stuff.

*swoon*
Posted by: .com   2006-10-21 10:20  

#10  My "Month At-A-Glance" calendar says Eid Al-Fitr is on Monday. I don't know how they knew. They seem to get the 4th of July and Christmas correct too. Every year. Amazing, this calendar science. Just amazing.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-10-21 10:15  

#9  So lost in the Luna Sea.
Posted by: newc   2006-10-21 10:10  

#8  Hmmm. Advanced and scientific, huh? Ya know, you could use moontool.exe.
Posted by: newc   2006-10-21 10:08  

#7  Islam is the most advanced scientific religion?!?

The live like sand fleas, the issue a fartwa against anything modern or fun, and they still wipe their ass with their hand. How does that make them the most scientifically advanced religion?
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2006-10-21 10:08  

#6  BTW, if anyone's interested, here's the original NASA image page from which I down-sized the one you see above... purdy cool.
Posted by: .com   2006-10-21 09:58  

#5  The greatest science project is underway ... a calendar! Such an advanced and scientific religion.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-10-21 09:53  

#4  It sounds like Al-Zaaq is trying to predict the future. He's a witch!
Posted by: Flea   2006-10-21 09:51  

#3  Sorry, Ship. Only "Arab Scientists" of sufficient piety are allowed to participate - and they're always pretty last-minute about the RamaLamaDingDong stuff.

I was so naive on my first tour in '92 that I offered to write programs to generate prayer times and RamaLama dates for the next 20 years to one of the Saudis that seemed sociable. His eyes got big, then he grinned, then he said that it would not be possible. He did not elaborate, but he thought it quite funny that I offered.
Posted by: .com   2006-10-21 09:17  

#2   He urged the Organization of the Islamic Conference to unify the Islamic calendar

it helps to have the Eid Bargain Sales at the ammo and acid stores the same weekend
Posted by: Frank G   2006-10-21 09:13  

#1  Rats! It's too late for my Eid cards. I'm sorry, this is 5 years in a row. Isn't their someway to predict this moon phase thing?
Posted by: Shipman   2006-10-21 09:10  

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