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US House report reveals terrorist across our Southern Border |
2006-10-19 |
The link is direct to the document in PDF on the House of Rep web - paraphrased excerpts follow (the document is protected against copy and paste of text, friken idiots in government locked it down) 39 tunnels have been discovered on the southern border. ICE revealed that many Middle Eastern illegals have been smuggled into cental american countries and then from there up through Mexico into the US. Hezbollah has already inserted some peopel across the souther border. Venezuela is issuing real identity documents with false identities for Middle Easterners and terrorists that allow legal entry into the US. There are no less than 16 primary entry points, and 13 secondary entry points in Texas alone, with 21 rally points INSIDE the state of Texas for routing and smullgling of illegals and drugs. (And those are just the ones we know about) Weapons caches with full-auto AK-47's and ammunition have been captured at or near the border, and reports of RPGs have become more frequent, and now mortars are being reported. HUNDREDS of illegals from known terrorist countries have been caught in South Texas alone. Go to page 28-29 and look at the Arabic military patches that were found on clothing captured in the US in Text near the border, including (in arabic script) "Martyr" "Way to Immortality" and syblos from an Airborne military unit, and a patch depictingthe airliner attacks in NY. More than 200 from Lebanon alone (with many thought to have Hezbollah ties) came across at a single point in Texas. Now top that all off with estimates that we only apprehend 10 to 30 percent of the illegals that are crossing our souther border. |
Posted by:Oldspook |
#37 Foxit doesn't do that. This is the message it gave me when I tried to do what you suggestedFoxit Reader |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 23:48 |
#36 Posted your story link on another site and got this reply back: FC, I downloaded it with Foxit Reader 2.0. It you click on Tools at the top and the click on Select Text, the hand goes away and you can copy text. |
Posted by: FeralCat 2006-10-19 23:33 |
#35 I agree w/OS & AP. We should of built the wall most rik-tik. Our congress critters vice Tancredo and a few others are all cowards for quibbling over it. I'm ashamed of them, especially the repubs who squandered opportunity after opportunity to really un-fuck the country. Yep, thanks for increasing spending, not building a wall, & not really supporting the prez wrt gitmo. I've got a big fuck you w/two middle fingers for john mccain as well. One side of the aisle is selling us out for a possible voter population and the other for cheap non-union labor. I say f*ck'em both if they're too afraid of doing the right thing because some illegal migrant friendly idiot might call them a racist. However, and unfortunately I will hold my nose and vote repub because the dems are straight up asswipes. Finally we must remember our sovereignty above all else. No compromise. If that means Mexico goes lefty islamonut - so be it - but I don't get that sense. Too many old school catholics still there to put up w/that nonsense. However, even if they did go that route, that probably just simplifies things. Heck, maybe its time to go jeffersonian and have a revolt in our own country and throw the bums out of office. |
Posted by: Broadhead6 2006-10-19 23:14 |
#34 secretly agrees with Alaska Paul, except that I think the Dems of which I used to be one are an even bigger threat than the GOP -- which takes some doing |
Posted by: lotp 2006-10-19 22:28 |
#33 Last comment on this thread for me for tonight (unless someone posts something provocative). This is from the cited PDF, the enemy invasion routes into Texas. |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 22:08 |
#32 I don't know if I got all the key bits, but I got some of them. I figgered out how to extract an image from the PDF, post it elsewhere on the Web, and then here. This is some of the litter the illegal aliens are leaving as they cross our borders. |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 22:01 |
#31 freudian slip, I hope? Open borders = open boarders? By the way, it's LOSE something not LOOSE something. Study harder. There will be a quiz next week. |
Posted by: your 8th grade english teacher 2006-10-19 21:59 |
#30 Thank you for posting the key bits, Snuns Thromp1484. I shan't sleep well tonight. But at least Mr. Wife and the trailing daughters are working seriously toward their second degree black belts, including weapons. May God watch over all the good people until we fix this situation. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2006-10-19 21:50 |
#29 When active criminal and terrorist enterprises are walking right through our borders, we have an obligation under the US Constitution to provide for the common defense and to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions (Article 1, Section 8). We do not make pleasant conversation in diplomatic circles with countries that either condone or are unwilling or unable to take care of criminal and terrorist activities in their own countries. If Mexico cannot stop them, then we will stop them , within our own borders. This means the personnel and materiel needed to do the mission. This is a big deal but not a huge deal. What our leaders lack is a will to do what is necessary. This is going to take a grass roots effort on the part of the citizens. Republicans suck. They suck bad. They are worse than dems because they violated their sacred oaths of office. The Dems lie. That is what is expected of them. Screw this Canada / US / Mexico greater North American Co-Prosperity sphere. We are a sovereign country. We need to act like one. The Congress and the President need to feel the fury and the anger of the American people. You want pro-Islamist regimes? Keep up what you are doing now---with the half-assed effort on the southern border. You want to stop pro Islamist regimes. Take out the financers. Kill a few. The rest will retire to the riviera. We are losing this war. We have some serious a$$kicking to do to our enemies. And those enemies include many members of Congress, and others. I said my piece and counted to three. |
Posted by: Alaska Paul 2006-10-19 21:41 |
#28 #27 - as I wrote above, our ruling class feels superior to us. |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 21:25 |
#27 Open boarders Bush will be the death of us all. I expect the Dhimmicrats to be traitors but why the Repuclicks too? Spit. |
Posted by: Icerigger 2006-10-19 21:16 |
#26 From p. 27
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Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 21:16 |
#25 Yeah, we are NS. I didn't say it would be easy or that we aren't taking on huge headaches. I do think the alternative is NOT one we should rush to embrace. An *actively* hostile, *actively* pro-Islamacist regime on our southern border could potentially tie us up for a decade or more. No good answers here, due in large part (but not only) to the active opposition from elements within our own country who in their glee to tear down capitalism and national borders are abetting some very very dangerous activity. |
Posted by: lotp 2006-10-19 20:56 |
#24 lotp, are we talking about the same Mexico? There is no way we do anything with them. They are no more our friend than France or Venezuela. The only deal we should cut with them is under the supervision of an M1A2. |
Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-10-19 20:44 |
#23 I had the solution for this nonsense a year ago. And it doesn't need the US government at all to implement it. Pass out flyers in northern Mexico, to Mexicans, offering a bounty for their turning in non-Mexicans trying to cross into the US. Tiny amounts of money look huge to them. If we offered bounties of between $500-$5,000, freaking insects couldn't get across that border much less non-Mexicans. All they have to do is use a phone, any phone, and call in when and where the non-Mexican is crossing. In exchange they are given a six digit number. IT IS LIKE THE FREAKING LOTTERY, except they know that if the guy is caught, they win a minimum of $500! If he is "interesting", they could WIN up to $5,000. A measely ONE MILLION DOLLARS could result in the apprehension of 2,000 $500 potential terrorists! And to put this in perspective, for $100, you can buy a professional assassination in northern Mexico. Imagine what $500 looks like to them! How many private individuals would be able to lay down a bounty pool of $1M to keep non-Mexicans out? $1M isn't even "rich" in the US any more. |
Posted by: Anonymoose 2006-10-19 20:24 |
#22 Militarization of the southern border, from the other side p. 23
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Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 20:00 |
#21 Old Spook, agreed. (although I'm worried about Detroit) That's ALSO why the Bush administration is working to integrate Mexico and Canada with us into a closer economy and defense umbrella. I know it gets Malkin and others red in the face when they read about the plans for a major north/south highway etc. But there's a good reason for it -- a reason that serves US well. That smaller border at the south end of Mexico is much easier to defend than our larger one on their north side/our southern border. There are risks in that strategy, but if we ONLY wall off Mexico, that increases the likelihood of them falling to a far-left government which might well be very happy to join forces with the Islamacists. I really would rather not be in the situation Israel faces on its borders. We need to do what we can right now with the borders we have. But we also should, and can, try hard to push the defensive envelope out to the north of Canada and the south of Mexico. |
Posted by: lotp 2006-10-19 19:49 |
#20 Paid Christmas trips home for illegal immigrants excerpt from p. 17
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Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 19:48 |
#19 S border is far more pourous - some politician the other day showed how he could cross the Rio Grande in broad daylight on an elephant with a Marichi Band playing and nobody from the border patrol would catch him. WMD are harder to get into Canada. But central america (Hello Hugo Chavez), then on a train to the Mex border, then into the US? Piece of cake. Plus thats where vast amounts, MILLIONS of illegals cross. Thats why the wall has to go in the south first. |
Posted by: Oldspook 2006-10-19 19:43 |
#18 And one more set of people to be pissed at: The Press. Our democracy requires an informed populace, but the Liberal MSM's hatred of Bush and fear of Conservatives has caused them to downplay or ignore critical issues like Border Security in favor of playing games about immigration policy. If anything THEY deserve to be the first ones up against the wall -they abrogated their responsibility to hold ALL politicians to account and inform the American people of ALL the facts. First kill all the lawyers? NO. HANG the editors and reporters from the beams of the destroyed buildings they helped happen with their deliberate bias, distortion and disinformation acting effectively as an arm of the enemy from within. |
Posted by: Oldspook 2006-10-19 19:40 |
#17 from p. 32It is especially difficult to provide the total number of Special Interest Aliens entering the U.S. illegally because they pay larger amounts of money ($15.000 to $60,000 per alien) to employ the more effective Mexican alien smuggling organizations and are less likely to be apprehended. |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 19:36 |
#16 JHC, makes you want to upchuck for certain. NS. they are coming in from the north also. Canada lets them in freely. You know how many Muzzies are up there. They literally cross with no resistance. I had read about the finding of this Arab material before. They found some on the south side of Rio Grande also. It was Iranian military manuals and clothing buried in shallow mounds just south of the river. Like I've said, stay alert. You can tell if you've got Muzzies living around you. Get plenty of ammo on hand. Stay in practice on your shooting. They will pull something here. They often take 8-10 years between incidents. So something may come down soon. Local cops can't handle much. Most of our military is out of country including a lot of the Guard. It may fall on us old farts to defend the home front. I damn well can still shoot. Better than ever, in fact. Just don't move too swiftly now. |
Posted by: SpecOp35 2006-10-19 19:31 |
#15 Here's the summary from the page 38:It is imperative that immediate action be taken to enhance security along our nation's Southwest border. Greater control of the border can be achieved by: {are my comments} |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 19:27 |
#14 Nothing significant will change until a major terrorist incident occurs on US soil. Then things will likely change and change fast. People just don't feel threatened right now. If they did they would do something about it. The politicians know that they would be utterley skewered if they tried to really shut down the border. No, it won't happen until tens of thousands of Americans are dead. After that the round ups, deportations and border clamp down will happen with a vengence, and those that argue against it will be shouted off of the stage. |
Posted by: remoteman 2006-10-19 19:22 |
#13 Ways around a protected PDF file for Windows users: 1) Open PDF file 2) Scroll to page of interest 3) hit "Print Screen" 4) Open "Paint" and paste contents of clipboard into the program. Save the results in a format your OCR program will recognize. I use Textbridge Pro. 5) Open OCR program and the saved image file, process the text, save as whatever text format you want. 6) Post to Rantburg. I will do a few of these and post results this evening. This is just a more time consuming and tedious way to cut and paste. |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 19:17 |
#12 --- New Mexico "is issuing real identity documents [NM state driver's licenses] with false identities" on a routine basis. Not much of a reason to outsource to Venezuela. See 1, 2, and last but not least 3. --- Our ruling class doesn't consider themselves citizens of the U.S. along with the rest of us. That's the only explanation I can figure out for the bipartisan support for open borders, failure to exercise national sovereignty, and a veritable US government-sponsored invasion [aka "illegal immigration"] into this country during a hot war, supposedly justified by a fear of WMD's used within our borders. --- It remains to be seen whether anything real results from the "700-mile fence" or whether it is just another one of many pre-election ploys and later on will have been abandoned or never carried out. ---- At present I don't think even a nuked American city will change the massive mental inertia of the majority of the surviving electorate, but the only solution I can think of is to talk this issue up among your friends and neighbors. |
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 2006-10-19 18:38 |
#11 Either one would probably do just fine. Why? The report focuses on the Souther border, but I'd be much more inclined to use the northern. Canada's much more multi culti, border's much less secure, both into Canada and Canada-US. We tend to ignore the risk there for fear of offending our 51st state which actually has at least one enemy province. |
Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-10-19 18:14 |
#10 Depends on which border has the smoother ride for the Nukemobile. |
Posted by: CrazyFool 2006-10-19 18:06 |
#9 Either one would probably do just fine. Why? |
Posted by: Dave D. 2006-10-19 18:01 |
#8 If you were an Arab coming into the US would you think it easier to come in from the south or north? |
Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-10-19 17:54 |
#7 I just finished reading this report. It made me feel sick to my stomach, especially the list of half-hearted, limp-wristed, bureaucratic paper-pushing so-called "security-enhancing measures" advocated in its Conclusion. I've supported Bush from the beginning, even while I was still a Democrat; and I can't imagine anything that could make me vote Democrat ever again, war or no war. Nonetheless, our government's failure-- indeed, its contemptuous refusal-- to gain absolute, total control over our borders since 9/11 is nothing short of criminally negligent. "Improving partnerships and information sharing among Federal, State and local law enforcement" isn't going to stop the Mexican Invasion; it won't stop until invaders know, with near-absolute certainty, that to attempt illegal entry into the United States means you will be shot on sight and left to rot in the desert sun. Damned fucking bureaucrats. [/RANT] |
Posted by: Dave D. 2006-10-19 17:53 |
#6 YS, haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back. You were missed. I always like thinking about Yosemite. |
Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-10-19 17:52 |
#5 This is just the tip of the iceburg. We should stop honoring *any* Venezuelan papers particulary passports, birth certificates, and any diplomatic passports and immunity (Embassies, UN, etc...) - this includes their UN delegation. Let Chavez sit on the SC from home. What will the government do when a city is wasted by a nuke or bioweapon? Doesn't North Korea have a stockpile of them - you don't think Kimmie-boy will hesitate to sell some to Iran do you? Yet, we are still lying here, spread eagle with an undefeneded (and unwatched) southern border. just waiting to be screwed.... |
Posted by: CrazyFool 2006-10-19 17:43 |
#4 YS, maybe - and Bush and his administration have much to account for - but imagine what's going to happen with Pelosi as House Speaker, Rangel in charge of Finance, and a dozen others in charge of various other important committees. Just this morning Fox News was reporting the Democrats have already promised to repeal the Bush tax cuts, all of them, to begin a "responsible redeployment" of troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and to begin impeachment proceedings against the President! If repealing the tax cuts alone isn't scarey enough for you, imagine Hillary as head of Defense Appropriations or as President - these bastards will make that happen! Imagine a flood of immigrants granted instant voter status - these bastards will make that happen! Imagine felons granted the right to vote - these bastards will make that happen! GET OUT THERE AND CAMPAIGN AND VOTE!!! Because I can guarantee you these bastards will be out there voting, voting often, voting under different names, voting dead people, voting fraudulently, voting for the dead, voting for the felons, voting for the illegals, and voting and voting and voting and then claiming the GOP are the crooks attempting to steal the elections!!! Get out there and vote not matter what! Don't let these bastards steal our country from us - bcause they will! |
Posted by: FOTSGreg 2006-10-19 17:41 |
#3 Lawsuits are irrelevant to the dead. Lawsuits are completely irrelevant in the face of 100K or more dead due to a nuke in a city center. Bottom line: where will border security get more traction: Speaker Hastert or Speaker Pelosi? Math breaks down to we need 2700 miles of security. Hastert got 700. Pelosi would have gotten us Zero. Neither is good enough but one is surely worse than the other. WAKE UP America before your daughters get gunned down at the mall, or your sons get killed by an IED at thier football game. |
Posted by: Oldspook 2006-10-19 17:39 |
#2 I won't hold my breath waiting for W to take care of this. He and the entire government has failed us. Hes too busy trying it secure Iraq's borders to worry about us. Besides, the public is too busy watching Lost or Dancing with the Stars to do anything about it or care.Instead, they'll cry and lament and argue over memorials after the lawsuits have been filed because victimization is the new American way of life. |
Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2006-10-19 17:06 |
#1 70% to 90% get through. So what you see about captures above is only a fraction of what gets through. Each and every year the numbers get larger. Do the math. Scared yet? You should be. Angry at President Bush for delaying the fence in order to kiss-ass with the immigration policy? You should be. Angry at the Republican Congress (Other than Tancredo and a few others) fro sitting on their ass for 4 years? You should be. Angry at the Dems for denying the problem and repeating the idiotic mantra "They just want jobs"? You should be. Pissed at ALL of them because they ignored a vast security issue and preferred to play at politics - putting our nation and our families at risk? You damn well should be! Remember that when you vote. But don't make it worse by voting for ven worse candidates - hol dyour nose and then hold them accoutnable! Call and let them know this is their last chance. |
Posted by: Oldspook 2006-10-19 17:00 |