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Europe
It's Civil war. In Iraq? No, France
2006-10-14
Turf conscious bloggers in Paris' rundown, mostly Muslim, suburban immigrant housing estates rival in violent messages that threaten to beat senseless and even kill any intruder caught in "our ghetto." Almost every word is misspelled, in both argot slang and pidgin French. And these are not empty threats. An average of 14 policemen a day are injured in bloody clashes with jobless youngsters.

France's Interior Ministry said 2,500 police officers had been "wounded" this year. The head of the hard-line trade union "Action Police" Michel Thooris wrote to Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to describe conditions in housing developments turned slums as "intifada." Police cruisers are pelted daily with stones and "Molotov cocktails" (gasoline-filled bottles with burning wicks that explode on impact) and Thooris said cops assigned to what was rapidly degenerating into "free fire zones" should be protected in armored vehicles. Entire tall buildings empty into the streets to chase policemen and free an arrested comrade.

"We are in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists," Thooris told journalists.

Sarkozy, the leading center-right candidate for next year's presidential election, responded by dispatching cops in body armor, equipped with automatic weapons and rubber bullets, stun and teargas grenades into several Paris suburbs with orders to "restore control" from "organized crime." In one recent clash 250 cops dispersed a 100-strong Muslim gang armed with baseball bats.
The chaotic conditions in suburbs like Clichy-sous-Bois, Montfermeil and St. Denis have grown progressively worse since the nationwide Muslim riots in November 2005 that torched 10,000 vehicles.
Posted by:gromky

#39  it does no harm to hope for the optimistic while preparing for the pessimistic. Good thing France isn't an integral part of NATO, thanks DeGaulle
Posted by: Frank G   2006-10-14 22:18  

#38  However antagonistic we might all feel about the eliteist French leadership, we'd all better hope like hell that nuclear armed France does not fall into Muslim hands. While it is easy to smirk at France's comeuppance, try to remember that Eurabia is largely a fabrication of their socialist intelligentsia and not the common folk. Read Fjordman's essays on Eurabia if any of this is unclear.

The Eurabia Code, Part 1

The Eurabia Code, Part 2
Posted by: Zenster   2006-10-14 22:04  

#37  Frank, this may be the wake-up call that came too late.
Posted by: twobyfour   2006-10-14 21:50  

#36  I have hopes for the French - this may be the wake-up call
Posted by: Frank G   2006-10-14 21:37  

#35  The French are starting to wake up. They weren't always ALL cowards. Their ME intel contributions are 4.0
Many Jews were spared thanks to the bravery of the unheralded French "Underground" during WW-II. The "few" in France need our prayers today.
Posted by: Asymmetrical Triangulation   2006-10-14 21:19  

#34  Perhaps the French police can redeploy to the .... Maginot Line?
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden   2006-10-14 20:27  

#33  The French Police really need to listen to lessons from The LAPD and NYPD
Posted by: TomTom is #1   2006-10-14 20:08  

#32  the 5.th division allready has sharia laws in use in central and suburb Paris.
Here French law dont apply talk to the local Iman.
Import cheap labour from the mid-east and harvest the results europe.
Islam coming though the back door and the clutony of europes politicians who wont pay fair wages for the workers job but import slaves from the middle east.
Posted by: Viking   2006-10-14 19:50  

#31  mmmmmmm giblets
Posted by: Angurong Chotle2086   2006-10-14 18:47  

#30  Mmmmmm ... turnip hearts!
Posted by: Homer   2006-10-14 18:44  

#29  The Youths can see themselves as the paleos fighting off the evil zionists, or as the iraqis resisting the US Hegemon, because this fits the Victimhood fantasy endlessly fed by the msm.

That's damn near the heart of the turnip.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-10-14 17:10  

#28  Maybe someone should propose the re-creation of the Garde Mobile. Sort of an military armed, middle class militia that can act as a para-military police reserves.

Of course, such a Garde Mobile would be under no typical restrictions when called out, other than to "stop the riot". This could result in many rioters becoming air-conditioned.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-10-14 16:37  

#27  Oldcat

If you go to Corsica and you say they are Italians you will run in a lot of trouble. There are Corsicans who are French patriots (like Napoleon) and Corsicans who are Nationalists and reject Italians as well as French but what you will not find is "Italian Corsicans". BTW, when Corsica was in Genovese hands there was a resiatsnce movement). And Napoleon was born French.
Posted by: JFM   2006-10-14 16:37  

#26  What will happen in European cities when Iran attacks?

There. Fixed your question.
Posted by: J.D. Lux   2006-10-14 15:54  

#25  Wasn't it the Syrian secret service??? What will happen in European cities when Iran gets attacked?
Posted by: Angeath Huparong4374   2006-10-14 15:49  

#24  #6 You forget, for the "whiff of grapeshot" they had to import an Italian. Even then, the actual French would not act.
Posted by: Oldcat   2006-10-14 15:31  

#23  It's just happening in slo-mo, and through other means, for now at least.

Agreed, a5089. Islam has chosen war by any means and we dearly need to bring it to them on that same level. Hunter-killer teams to pot the jihadist imams, banning the burqa in all Western countries, deporting all foreign born radicals, expulsion of all Saudi financed Wahhabists and initiating measures to eventually ban Islam altogether if it refuses to allow freedom of religion in all Muslim-majority nations.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-10-14 14:40  

#22  The question here is "whom to chear?".
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-10-14 14:27  

#21  Sounds like Chicago in the 70s and early 80s, we weren't Beirut by the Lake for nuthin', you know.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-10-14 13:59  

#20  so let's roll folks. load and lock.
Posted by: facta non verba   2006-10-14 13:45  

#19  This is just a preview of what will happen when the west finally gets serious and decides to win this war.
The mooks will rise up in every nation simultaneously at some perceived sleight and WW3 will be at hand.
Posted by: Dreamsmith   2006-10-14 13:35  

#18  This isn't actually a part of the war on terror,

It is.
It's just happening in slo-mo, and through other means, for now at least.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-14 12:18  

#17  This isn't actually a part of the war on terror, so it should be in opinion.
i.e. My opinion is Phrance is Phucked up badly.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-10-14 12:11  

#16  "quagmire" = bourbier
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-14 11:51  

#15  If they were born in France,

FFL and then the Cote d'Ivoire.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-10-14 11:23  

#14  Zen, I think you've got it. Bring in the military. Dose them with tear gas, then hit them with the water cannons with dye marker. If they don't drown they can easily be rounded up. The penalty for "youths" rioting should be immediate deportation to whichever shithole they came from. If they were born in France, exile to anyplace in the Sahara they can be dumped.
Posted by: SpecOp35   2006-10-14 11:17  

#13  Another story the terrorist supporting MSM will not cover.

French surrendering isn't news.

Burn the getto to the ground. That being said, wonder were this one is going to go. One third of the French hate the Muslim(es) and their flood of pIslam on traditional French culture.

Geeze I'm pulling for the French. Someone hit me.
Posted by: Icerigger   2006-10-14 11:00  

#12  Marécage.

(Assuming Google translation for "quagmire" is correct.)
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-10-14 10:56  

#11  Two state solution?

One state for Chirac called "denial"
One state for mooks called "anarchy"
Posted by: Captain America   2006-10-14 10:55  

#10  Almost every word is misspelled, in both argot slang and pidgin

ima call Persecute!
Posted by: HalfEmptty   2006-10-14 10:21  

#9  I call for a two state solution.
This is actually pretty funny when you think about it : the whole anti-Israeli propaganda stemming from the Establishment, fueled by the Arab Policy (and by the quai d'Orsay) and the leftist stronghold on msm, had actually a very perverse boomerang effect.
The Youths can see themselves as the paleos fighting off the evil zionists, or as the iraqis resisting the US Hegemon, because this fits the Victimhood fantasy endlessly fed by the msm. And in that case, the occupier is the french State, and everything representing it (EMT, firefighters, cops,...). And as for the paleos, they do this all the while living off the welfare of their ennemy (like Israel providing power, water retreatment,... to the paleos).

This is so true, that the Establishment tools actually had an epiphany earlier in 2005, because they realized this policy had the backlash effect of encouraging attacks against french jews (which they don't want); in other words, they helped "import" this conflict right on french soil, where it was readily picked up by leftist, muslim or racist groups (like the Tribu Ka black supremascists).
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-14 09:49  

#8  Entire tall buildings empty into the streets to chase policemen and free an arrested comrade.

Perfect. Barricade the doors and begin arresting every male of fighting age who tries to re-enter.

The police really need to use water cannons loaded with a persistent ultra violet sensitive dye.

In 1997, pink dye was reportedly added to the water used by Indonesian police to disperse a riot. The implication is that they might use this mark to facilitate the arrest of rioters at a later time. The United Kingdom, who sold the water cannons to Indonesia, condemned this practice,(despite the fact that the Royal Ulster Constabulary had used water cannon with purple dye during The Troubles in Northern Ireland) but later approved the sale of more water cannons to them.

Cordon off the area, hose down the frontline of rioters and sort them out at the perimeter exits. However, if you really want to play dirty ...

There have been incidents of antiriot watercannons being loaded with sewage instead of clean water.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-10-14 09:47  

#7  I call for a two state solution. They could both fight over Paris as their capital. Israel could offer free one way travel packages to the beautiful suburbs of Paris for paleos who need a little R&R from jihad.

Chirac always wanted France to melt into a new super nation. I think he'll get his wish sort of. This will be more like France being eaten by flesh eating bacteria.
Posted by: Lanny Ddub   2006-10-14 09:34  

#6  I see. Not even a whiff of grapeshot? Has France lost all sense of tradition?
Posted by: exJAG   2006-10-14 09:30  

#5  Yes, but sierra leoneses and other africans are just n*ggers, y' know, just like the rwandeses were, or the people from darfur... those fine Youths are the Qui Pro quo of the Eurabia agreement. They're the future of France and Europe. Can't harm them. Nope, nope.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-14 09:28  

#4  Cut off the welfare? I was thinking flip to full auto. I mean no offense, JFM and A5089, but the French don't have a problem doing that in Sierra Leone or Cote d'Ivoire.
Posted by: exJAG   2006-10-14 09:25  

#3  Cut off the social security (welfare) payments. Full stop.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-10-14 09:17  

#2  You mean Chirac's increased Welfare after the last riots didn't win the "peace-love-&-happiness". Shoc-le-blue
Posted by: C-Low   2006-10-14 09:10  

#1  Quagmire! Cut and Run!
Posted by: Raj   2006-10-14 08:33  

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