You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front: Culture Wars
Columbia Protesters Cry Foul at Threat of Discipline
2006-10-10
The protesters who rushed the stage at Columbia University Wednesday night when the founder of a volunteer border-patrol group tried to speak are crying foul, asserting that they were the victims of the violence and that they should not be disciplined by the university.

After the students climbed onstage, overturning tables and chairs and causing mayhem, President Lee Bollinger called the students' disruption of the event "one of the most serious breaches of academic faith that can occur at a university."

"It is unacceptable to seek to deprive another person of his or her right of expression through actions such as taking a stage and interrupting the speech," Mr. Bollinger said in a statement, adding that "of course" the university is investigating the incident.

Three students who claimed responsibility for taking the stage and interrupting the speech by the border-patrol group known as the Minutemen held a press conference yesterday on Broadway outside the university. One of the students, Karina Garcia, the political chairwoman of the Chicano Caucus, said that she and her fellow protesters were the victims of a "massive campaign of vilification and demonization."

Flanked by members of the Act Now to Stop War and End Racism group and the National Lawyers Guild, which have rallied to the student protesters' cause, Ms. Garcia said,"We wanted the whole world to know that the Minutemen are racists who terrorize defenseless immigrant families" and that the protesters set out to "sabotage them."

A Minuteman whose speech at Columbia was prevented by the protest, Jerome Corsi, rejected the racism charge as "inaccurate and irresponsible" and said it had "no basis in reality."

In a reversal of standard accounts of Wednesday evening's events, Ms. Garcia said that when the protesters stormed the stage, they were attacked by the Minutemen and other students. "Shame on the administration for launching an investigation into peaceful protesters," she said. Ms. Garcia referred to video footage captured by the Spanish television network Univision that she said depicted the violence.The video shows students fighting over a banner that the protesters unfurled, but the violence to which Ms. Garcia said she was victim is not evident.

Ms. Garcia said that no disciplinary action had been taken yet. She nonetheless called on the public to send letters to Mr. Bollinger demanding that the investigation be halted. She said that he has already received over 3,000 such notes.

Student protesters attesting to the violence they said had been inflicted on them by the Minutemen followed Ms. Garcia at the podium. The student leader of the International Socialist organization, Monique Dols, said that the Minutemen's "violent backlash" was "in the same tradition of the attackers in Birmingham and Montgomery," referring to events of the Civil Rights era. Comparing the plight of illegal immigrants to that of blacks in the 1960s, Ms. Dols advocated for granting full rights to illegal aliens, noting, "Every movement for social justice has always been deemed untimely or too extreme. It's time for immigrant rights."

Mr. Corsi denied that the Minutemen had been involved in any violence. "We were just trying to protect ourselves," he said.

Challenged by reporters to square her advocacy of free speech with her decision to take the stage at last Wednesday's event, Ms. Dols said, "The nature of these questions shows there's more concern for the Minutemen than for helpless illegal immigrants."

The Columbia administration declined to comment on the press conference.
Posted by:.com

#18  #6 I watched the girl ringleaders on FoxNews. These young bitches were never properly spanked as children and are now "Bad Girls" like in the movie. They need parents or boyfriends to put them over their knees and give them a series of spankings.
Posted by 3dc 2006-10-10 09:31

I agree. They were on H&C the other night. Actually, the two were pretty hot and most deserving of a spanking. Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden   2006-10-10 22:18  

#17  A bunch of spoiled crybabies that need a good thumping to know that "free speech", like every other right our Constitution guarantees, is for ALL. Denying one group free speech by wrecking the venue is a crime. They should all be expelled, every class recorded as a "0" (not an "F" or "incomplete", but a zero - which drags a grade point average down to four or five digits to the right of the decimal), and their names struck from the rolls of Columbia University completely (they don't get credit for the classes they "passed"). Any "professor" that disagrees needs to find a pink slip in their mailbox, along with a copy of the "help wanted" classifieds. This kind of sh$$ doesn't belong anywhere in the United States.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-10-10 18:23  

#16  The minutemen are at fault for not videotaping the entire event, and from several angles, including above. This is inexpensive and damning in a court of law.

And then, when an event happens, immediately file a lawsuit against the individuals involved, and let the institution have a choice: defend the students and become part of the lawsuit; or discipline the students and stay out of court.

Of course administrators will go to great lengths not to be sued by someone with a good chance of winning, so they will gladly throw any number of radical students on the fire as a burnt offering.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-10-10 17:35  

#15  Who knew and when did they know?

Investigation!
Posted by: Bobby   2006-10-10 16:53  

#14  Apparently it was planned weeks in advance. I wonder of the school administration knew about it beforehand......
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-10-10 12:39  

#13  Unless the guys on stage yelled "FIRE" there was no excuse fore the students to disrupt the speech. I saw both of the agitators/leaders on Hannity and Colmes and they were besides themselves that Colmes wasn't on their side. To his credit Hannity interrupted the young fascists about a ten times until she lost her cool. Then he asked her if she liked being interrupted. They both wanted to continue the fairy tale that the Minute men are an armed wing of the KKK. I hope the Dean suspends all of the fascists for the year. If it were me I would boot them all for violating the school charter on freedom of speech. I am certain that if the College Republicans interrupted their weekly socialistÂ’s party secretariat meeting they would demand that they be expelled. (RIGHTLY SO)
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-10-10 12:36  

#12  ANSWER, Lawyers Guild, and the Int'l Socialist groupies? What, was La Raza and CAIR busy this weekend doing their hair? Jeebus, I've never seen a more tempting target of opportunity than this grouping.
Posted by: BA   2006-10-10 12:22  

#11  rww.

I was at MSU at the time. There was a lot of that going on. The hippies used to scream "pig" at the cops until the football players or fraternity guys showed up.

What a bunch of spoiled fakes.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey   2006-10-10 11:49  

#10  There you go again.

At least with Whorehouses you know that your going to get screwed and stand a good change of catching something nasty.

I think these people are just pissed because they might not have slaves to wash their cars, mow their lawns and watch their spawn.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-10-10 11:20  

#9  Reminds me of two demonstrations at Michigan State in the late 60s. A small group staged a sit-in at the Chancellor's office demanding he negotiate with them about some trivial issue. They were arrested, expelled, and jailed for criminal trespass in about 3 hours.

The local left wing decided to hold a dance to raise money for their defense. Unfortunately they set up their sound system behind Shaw Hall, one the largest all male dorms in the country on the first day of exam week. Aggravated students pouring out of the dorm threw them and their sound equipment into the Red Cedar River. The abortive dance wound up as a march by three groups to the edge of campus. The wet and confused protestors were in the middle of the street with a double line of police on either side protecting them from the enraged mob of students who wanted to beat them to a pulp for their stupidity.

Things were less PC then.
Posted by: RWV   2006-10-10 11:20  

#8  You people actually pay money to these whore houses for what passes for education ?
That's the problem, where there's money, there will be parasites.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-10-10 10:23  

#7  Free speech for me, but not for thee lives well in the University left.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-10-10 09:48  

#6  I watched the girl ringleaders on FoxNews. These young bitches were never properly spanked as children and are now "Bad Girls" like in the movie. They need parents or boyfriends to put them over their knees and give them a series of spankings.
Posted by: 3dc   2006-10-10 09:31  

#5  "Their prof probably offered them extra credit"

And there's the real problem. Even at "conservative" schoold such as St. Mary's where I'm taking grad school courses, the campus is literally INFESTED with academic moonbattery. Over half the profs I've met have an incurable case of BDS, and seem to have a compulsion to interject Bush bashing during their lectures, even in classes that are totally unrelated to politics or world affairs.

Student bodies are simply reflecting the philosophies of their teachers. Here's where the house really needs to be cleaned.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-10-10 09:00  

#4  Can't blame the rabid little twits. Their prof probably offered them extra credit. Heck, given the timing, this "direct action" mighta been the midterm exam.
Posted by: exJAG   2006-10-10 08:39  

#3  Translation: They defeneded themselves from our violence! Their not supposed to do that! We are the victims here!

Send them to North Korea - where they can protest the lack of food.

Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-10-10 08:09  

#2  Ahhh youth, the right to free speech until you have to listen to something you don't like then try to shut them down. They should get expelled and told to come back after they figure out what free speech really means.
Posted by: djohn66   2006-10-10 07:04  

#1  There's plenty of film to determine whassup. I think they're lying fascist crybabies who thought everyone would consider them heroic or some such shit. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: .com   2006-10-10 06:39  

00:00