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Britain
Welcome to Londonistan
2006-10-07
Melanie Phillips reviews recent stories about the government, British jihadis and the rest of the citizenry. Some nuggets:
I must be dreaming. Jack Straw of all people has broken the great taboo by daring to challenge the wearing of the Islamic full-face veil in Britain and ignited a hitherto suppressed public debate? Overnight, the man has become a national and international hero. Radio and TV stations report that messages of passionate support have been pouring in from all over the world – with a significant number coming from British Muslims.

Others, however, responded in the predictable way, sometimes without realising the hole they were digging for themselves. Sheik Ibrahim Nogra of the Muslim Council of Britain, for example, said:

{"} Does Mr Straw mean that people should give up certain cultural and religious customs and practices simply because a vast majority of the country do not share them? That is calling for assimilation. That is saying that one culture or one way of life is superior to another.{"}

Well, actually the point about being British is that, if your minority values conflict with those of the majority, the latter do take precedence. ThatÂ’s what citizenship is all about. So in his outrage, Mr Nogra gives the game away.


About the British Muslim policeman who refused to be assigned to guard an Israeli diplomatic facility, and the resulting uproar over official mismanagement:
it appears that the Met {=the London Police Department} has an established policy of excusing an officer from service on ‘moral grounds’ — which in itself is extraordinary — because, as the Guardian reported, in the wake of the Sun story a panic-stricken Met Commissioner ordered a ‘rethink’ of that very policy...the police are in serious difficulty over the whole issue of how to deal with Islamic extremism, towards which they have adopted a policy of strategic appeasement.
Posted by:Anguper Hupomosing9418

#3  It seems to me not much is made (which should be made) of politcial Islam?

Wittingly or not, Dunno, you have made the pivotal point.

Islam is a political ideology masquerading as a religious faith. Few, if any, of our politicians have been willing to confront Muslims on how they march under false colors. Islam wants the entire world to be subjugated under sharia law. That is not a church, it is a government. This theocratic idology needs to be treated like any other subversive doctrine and its adherents must be faced with internment, deportation, expulsion or arrest.

Whatever benefit of the doubt, sympathy or understanding Muslims once may have deserved has evaporated over five long years of heated anti-Western rhetoric and endless atrocities. They must be returned to their Islamic utopias so that all of them can enjoy the bliss that is hand-cutting and head-chopping sharia law.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-10-07 23:44  

#2  British Muslim policeman who refused to be assigned to guard an Israeli diplomatic facility
this is more than outrageous. This makes me assume then that this same officer of the law wouldn't protect an Israeli person in any situation. This so called police officer needs to be kicked out.
How dare he be excused, how dare he be able to choose instead of protecting everyone. Who's paying his salary. Fuckwits.
Posted by: Jan   2006-10-07 23:28  

#1  Islam has thrown a wrench in our sockets ..being both a religion and a politcal movement. I have heard the religious debate... ad nauseum. The politcal debate not so much. It is essentially a theocratic movement
This type of threat has happened before , correct?

Not a loaded question. But weren't the "thinkers of the time " say 1700's aware of this?

It seems to me not much is made (which should be made) of politcial Islam? And I can't beleive there wasn't a soultion to that type of politics in the past?

Seems to me, Islam should be argued on the terms of it's poltical outcome and it's not. It's argued on who will be most upset

Dunno

Posted by: Dunno   2006-10-07 20:31  

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