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Olde Tyme Religion
Tell us more about Islam: Muslims to Pope
2006-09-24
Following a wave of protests against Pope Benedict's remarks on Islam, Muslim intellectuals in Turkey are asking what he really thinks about their faith and what long-term consequences his views will have. Muslim thinkers in Turkey, where the German-born Pontiff is due on a sensitive visit in late November, suspect Benedict suffers from 'Orientalist' delusions about Islam and wants to move the Roman Catholic Church away from dialogue with it.

His argument that Christianity is rational could be an indirect way of saying Islam is unreasonable and has no place in Christian-rooted Europe, they say. At the same time, they set clear limits on the dialogue they want, boxing it into a series of polite exchanges where the tough issues Benedict wants to discuss risk remaining taboo.

"He should explain a lot of things. His apology was not enough for the feelings of the Muslim world," said Bekir Karliaga, philosophy professor at Istanbul's Marmara University.
Posted by:Fred

#11  Iff Jesus Christ survived the Roman crucifixion process, he's the only personage in all human history who has, various mortal wounds, etal. notwithstanding.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-09-24 21:11  

#10  His argument that Christianity is rational could be an indirect way of saying Islam is unreasonable and has no place in Christian-rooted Europe.

Sounds about right to me!!!!!
Posted by: Gravish Spaviling5504   2006-09-24 16:02  

#9  My wife does this, if she doesn't want to hear the truth, she loudly discusses something (Anything) else, then pretends she was talking about the new subject all along and why am I trying to change the subject.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-09-24 14:02  

#8  His apology was not enough for the feelings of the Muslim world,"

Clearly the message about rationality did not get through to this Muslim deep thinker.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-24 08:49  

#7  Usak rejected proposals for Muslims to read the Koran in a less literal way to bring their understanding of it more in line with the modern world. "It's impossible and against reality to ask a Muslim to reinterpret the Koran," Usak declared.

And yet the only way for Islam to survive in the modern world is to reinterpret the Koran in such a way as to allow Muslims to live peacefully with the rest of us.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-24 08:48  

#6  At the same time, they set clear limits on the dialogue they want, boxing it into a series of polite exchanges where the tough issues Benedict wants to discuss risk remaining taboo.

Herewith the polite, educated version of the showtrial debate I discussed yesterday. The threat is no less there for all it isn't mentioned in cultured, erudite terms instead of marching in smelly masses around the landscape waving sharp things in the air. "Orientalist" is a key indicator as well, being how the modern students of the history of the Islamic world refer with curled lip to their putatively Eurocentric, judgemental predecessors. They are feeling their oats over there, aren't they?
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-24 08:45  

#5  "Muslim thinkers in Turkey..."

What do they think about? Maybe such vexing questions as, "If a woman is bald, does she still have to have to wear a hijab?"
Posted by: Spolulet Spineper3182   2006-09-24 08:43  

#4  Â“Muslim thinkers in Turkey” IÂ’ll have mine on rye, hold the mayoÂ….
Posted by: Joe of the Jungle   2006-09-24 07:28  

#3  mmmkay, How are you getting 97% conversion rates in Africa mr muslim? Do you want to know what Jesus thinks? He thinks it is the religion of Satan.
Posted by: newc   2006-09-24 07:18  

#2  It is possible that Michigan State alums now agree with the Arab view of the papacy.
Posted by: Super Hose   2006-09-24 01:26  

#1  Religion and violence are two different things

Not as muzzies are concerned, violence is their religion.
Posted by: twobyfour   2006-09-24 01:17  

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