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Olde Tyme Religion
Muslims vow to 'conquer Rome'
2006-09-18
Posted by:Fred

#34  The WOT > also a WAR AGAINST GLOBAL ANTI-DEMOCRACY, + ANTI-POPULAR/PARTICIPATORY DEMOCRACY, among many other premises-labels. How Radical Islam is being portrayed in Fascist = Limited Communist, America = Amerika will also occur in Western and Democratic Europe/Eurasia.
"TO CONQUER ROME" > OBVIOUSLY NO THREAT TO WESTERN/GLOBAL DEMOCRACY-CIVILIZATION HERE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-09-18 23:47  

#33  And one word from this ex latin student:

Delenda est Mecca.
Posted by: leroidavid   2006-09-18 23:15  

#32  Muslims vow to 'conquer Rome'

2 words form this Catholic:

Bring It.


Just one word from this scientific agnostic: Carthage
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-18 22:26  

#31  Well of course...that's where the election took place.
Still...I'll raise an eyebrow when they get substantial votes in Munich. Until then...
Posted by: Rafael   2006-09-18 22:21  

#30  But this weekend's elections here in Ye Alte Deutschland were also interesting: now the NPD (neo-nazis) holds almost 8% of the Bundestag.

I bet you 99% of those votes came from north-eastern Germany. I'll raise an eyebrow when half of them come from Munich. Until then...
Posted by: Rafael   2006-09-18 22:13  

#29  The muzzies have obviously never done battle with a very pissed off Jesuit. Turn loose a few priests that have S.J. (Society of Jesus) at the end of their name and there will be hell to pay.

They aren't called "soldiers of Christ" for nothing. Picture a highly motivated Oldspook with orders from His Holiness and a real case of the ass and well. . . 'nuff said.

I'm only half kidding.
Posted by: GORT   2006-09-18 20:48  

#28  mscegeek1 - I'm having a real hard time believing ANY middle-eastern muslim is worth it.

Then go read Iraq the Model - two smart, informative, decent, courageous brothers in Baghdad who've run a great blog since the liberation of Iraq. These guys GET IT. A lot of their friends, neighbors, and relatives get it. And if they didn't run their own blog - their voice and the voice of the many like them would NEVER be be heard.
Posted by: DMFD   2006-09-18 20:26  

#27  "Iraqis burned him [the Pope] in effigy"

And our troops are there, fighting, bleeding and dying for these scumbags. I'm having a real hard time believing ANY middle-eastern muslim is worth it.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-09-18 19:54  

#26  I'd love to see them try. That would be Muslim overreaching at its most extreme.

They still don't get it that the West has been fighting them with a tiny fraction of their resources so far. If we ever did decide to open up the gates of Hell, they wouldn't have a chance, and there wouldn't be any Paradise at the end of it (please, please, dip the bullets in lard first...and let them know we did it....)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2006-09-18 19:52  

#25  In the early 1990s the neo-Nazis won a measurable number of votes in one or a few of the Laender, and the reasoning was the same then. I even knew a lovely German lady -- her husband was a colleague of Mr. Wife's -- who voted neo-Nazi just to force the major parties to clean themselves up. The evidence of German political immaturity is that they demand stupidity-as-usual from the major parties, and actually believe they can trust the radicals at both extremes to clean out the mess periodically. Another reason they distrust the American process is because we actually monitor our major parties, and clean things up ongoing.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-18 19:42  

#24  This is end of the world stuff. The taking of Rome is an important element in Muslim thought. It relates to their end-of-the-world hopes and dreams. (search for "rome")
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/041.smt.html

Taking on Rome is a sign of the judgment day:
http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?id=635&category=3

Posted by: some guy   2006-09-18 19:37  

#23  2 words form this Catholic:

Bring It.
Posted by: Oldspook   2006-09-18 19:21  

#22  Tried to cj5890, tried to. Multinational forces stopped that shit, led by by NATO. Is that some snivelling little serb? Wearing a target t shirt? laughable little pricks.
Posted by: pihkalbadger   2006-09-18 18:50  

#21  Choluck Jineger5890, if you look at the Serb actions in regard to Bosnia, genocide is an apt description of what was going on.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-09-18 18:28  

#20  Well RJB, its not like aligning yourself with a butcher as accomplished as Stalin to rid the world of Nazis before, now is it?
Posted by: Cruque Claish5524   2006-09-18 18:20  

#19  RJB, f*** no. But I saw her point. By the time Europe realizes that it's eat or be eaten, it may come to that.

Outlawing the NPD was almost a reality just a few years ago -- and now they're drawing 8% of the vote. Quite a measure of where things are going.
Posted by: ST   2006-09-18 18:19  

#18  ST, are you seriously contemplating putting neo-nazi's in charge of modern Germany??? Wow.
Posted by: RJB in JC MO   2006-09-18 18:10  

#17  Germans value order a great deal. It's one of the things that drive them crazy about Americans - we ignore "rules" like stupid UN resolutions from Human Rights meetings headed by the likes of Ghaddafi and Chavez.

For them, 'democracy' and 'living by the rules' are closely related ideas. If the Muslims are perceived as inherently flouting 'the rules' then I can well see a bout of cleansing. But it will take a long while to trigger, I think, because they hate to think of themselves as acting in anger.
Posted by: lotp   2006-09-18 18:01  

#16  You'd be even more horrified by the results.

Perhaps the Germans are like the Muzzies. They just can't do democracy yet?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-18 17:48  

#15  #6 rj, I think you're right. Everyone's excited that the Swedes finally elected some grown-ups over the weekend, and that's great. But this weekend's elections here in Ye Alte Deutschland were also interesting: now the NPD (neo-nazis) holds almost 8% of the Bundestag. That's enough that they cannot be ignored and may well become part of the ruling coalition.

A German lady (of Jewish ancestry, actually) said to me today: "we could really stand to have those guys in charge -- just for a couple of months, y'know, to clean house. It needs doing and no one else will do it." I am horrified that I agree.
Posted by: ST   2006-09-18 17:41  

#14  The Serbs committed genocide? Sounds like you have a bad case of CNNitis there.
Posted by: Choluck Jineger5890   2006-09-18 17:12  

#13  Sure. They've been trying to take out Israel for sixty years , and since they've been trying, Israel's gotten bigger.
What are they gonna do, whine Rome to death?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-09-18 17:04  

#12  I agree with you FOTSgreg. But they can sure cause him some headaches. If not, amybe force his hand which will lead him to a mistake that could hurt him bad. That would be good.
Posted by: plainslow   2006-09-18 17:02  

#11  Actually IMO Chavez is a communist and an atheist.

He could give a rip regarding anyone's religion so long as they toe the party line and back his so-called leadership.

As long as it's convenient to use his protestant and catholic citizens in such a manner as it serves his aims of becoming the "new Castro" he will continue to. As soon as they become "too uppity" or no longer of any use he will rid himself of them by the most expedient means.

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2006-09-18 16:54  

#10  The Europeans will only act when they get scared enough. Frightened people will do things their grandchildren will look back on in horror.

Of course, they'll be able to because of what their grandparents do. No one does killing on an industrial scale like european based cultures.
Posted by: Steve   2006-09-18 16:52  

#9  He may be frozen al, but his country is mainly Catholic. But the Mulims who condemn this are his buddys. And protestants are mad at these threats as well.
Posted by: plainslow   2006-09-18 16:52  

#8  Plain Slow,
Actually Chavez is a Protestant.

Al
Posted by: frozen al   2006-09-18 16:46  

#7  The Euros know that if there's any real danger the US will pull their yarbles out of the fire.* It's happened before. It's what allows them to be better than us.

*Guarantee against external invasion only. Internal collapse not included.
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2006-09-18 16:44  

#6  Europe can be somewhat divided into those who practiced genocide (the Germans, Serbs, Russians) and those who apologized and made excuses for genocide (the left). They all feel guilty about it now but when push comes to shove I think the Muslims better be careful.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-09-18 16:37  

#5  How will Hugo Chavez square this with his catholic constituents. He backs the Muslims against the US, but thinks it's Ok for this?
Posted by: plainslow   2006-09-18 16:35  

#4  Why I so strongly believe in the right to arm and defend myself.

Blackvenom-2001
Posted by: Blackvenom-2001   2006-09-18 16:32  

#3  I wonder how the "European Union" would defend it self against a blitzkrieg started from Northern Africa into parts of Europe.

Quite easily, if they set themselves to it.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-09-18 16:03  

#2  The Euros' secret weapon is that their enemies are muzzies.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-18 16:01  

#1  I wonder how the "European Union" would defend it self against a blitzkrieg started from Northern Africa into parts of Europe. Together with internal uprisings from the Muslim populations in their big cities.....can you imagine??
Posted by: Threase Threque8712   2006-09-18 15:55  

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