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Moonbats Remember 9/11 |
2006-09-11 |
by James Joyner, "Outside the Beltway" Earlier, I collected a series of 9/11 anniversary reflections from the press and the blogosphere. Many of them were moving but none were particularly novel. By that, I mean that everyone pretty much agreed that the day was horrible, changed a lot of things about the world, and reflected on people who were murdered that day. There’s a different view out there, though, and it’s not just held by Muslim fanatics and our enemies across the globe but by some prominent lefties with large soapboxes. Andy Rooney explains why the tragedy was really our fault: The disaster on September 11th wasn’t like any of those. It was manmade. Death by design. Some people who hated Americans set out to kill a lot of us and they succeeded Duncan “Atrios” Black, meanwhile, does his best Kos imitation: But, anyway, just a big hearty fuck you to the White House and the news media who have decided this day is largely a personal narrative about George Bush, a man who was almost entirely absent on that day then had a big giggle before falling asleep early. It isn’t about him, and unless you were in New York or Washington or were close to people who were directly affected, it’s probably not about you either. Kos himself echoes much the same sentiment, although in the context of personal reflection: It’s not about me, and it’s certainly not about Bush, who after his famous Pet Goat moment cowardly fled and hid out in Nebraska in fear — the same kind of abject fear they’d spend the next five years selling to the American people. Aside from the fact that the media views most commemorations of solemn events through the lens of the presidency, given that that officeholder is the de facto Head of State, I know of no one who thinks today is about President Bush. Unless it’s lefties who want to use the occasion to remind is that Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. This isn’t just the radical fringe of the Angry Left, either. . . . There's lots more links at the link. |
Posted by:Mike |
#14 'Twasn't either one, but indoctrination. Decide whether the argument or the grade is more important, dear, and come back to us often to regain your footing and report from the belly of the beast. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2006-09-11 23:33 |
#13 Thanks lotp and Phineter Thraviger1073! I really appreciate it. (and I agree Barb, especially after having had to read in all weekend) I've been trying to put this together all afternoon and the links helped me some more of the background I needed in order to put my response together. Silly me, I thought I had registered for a literature class, not a philosophy one... |
Posted by: SJB 2006-09-11 23:09 |
#12 Yes, but SJB has to deal with this in class. |
Posted by: lotp 2006-09-11 22:02 |
#11 Barb, it's not just you dear..... |
Posted by: mcsegeek1 2006-09-11 21:57 |
#10 #9 lotp: "That might get you thinking about your response to him ..." He can f*ck himself sideways. But that's just me..... |
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-11 21:02 |
#9 SJB, check out the authors / books cited as Baudrillard's critics in the Wikipedia article on him This can be heavy going. Baudrillard is a postmodern, post-structuralist social critic of a certain European type. For him his concepts about the role of technology in shaping social experience is more real that actual people - not uncommon among the lit crit set. You might like Alan Sokal's critique of him. Sokal is the physicist who made up a bunch of jargon-laden nonsense and got it published in a very prestigious critical theory journal a couple years ago. He's a leftist politically but dislikes the idiocy that passes for deep thought among some in the critical theory world. (hat tip for some of this to my offspring who's swum in the critical theory waters) Another way to think about his work is that he has written heavily on what he sees as the destructive force of globalization. IIUC, in his terrorism article he sees the 9/11 attacks as a justified reaction to the intrusions of a globalized economy and culture on Islam &/or Islamic cultures. Thus the attacks weren't murders of Americans, they were attacks on the intrusive global culture America promulgates and hence cannot be linked to religious fanaticism but rather to a justifiable reaction to oppressive capitalism. (more or less) That might get you thinking about your reponse to him ... |
Posted by: lotp 2006-09-11 20:41 |
#8 SJB make sure you check out todays info from Fred Never Forget: recommended readings for 9/11 Must be something there for you |
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger1073 2006-09-11 20:29 |
#7 While slightly off topic, (sorry Fred. If deemed inappropriate, please delete. I won't get angry) this seemed the best place for it...I normally lurk aorund here, but I would like some feedback. In my Arabic Lit. class, I was assigned this weekend to read Jean Baudrillard's "The Spirit of Terrorism". Aren't I lucky. Not Arabic, and not literature either... For those familiar with his writings on 9/11, are there any good links to counter-arguments out there? Books maybe? I would also love to hear your thoughts on him. I trust you Rantburgers more than google, and I certainly trust you more than my prof and my University library (Berkley of the Midwest anyone?), which has nothing of value, and indeed, nothing of worth. Feel free to email me with any help you might be able to give. (Headed Rantburg so I don't delete you, its my bulk account) Thanks so much to everyone and sorry for thread-jacking a bit. Yes. Moonbats. Right. I've heard most of the 'arguments' at the link at my campus. Its really been quite frustrating trying have decent conversations with the liberals here. |
Posted by: SJB 2006-09-11 20:11 |
#6 #5 - Eeeeewwwwww. Accurate, but eeeewwwwwww. |
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-11 19:39 |
#5 "Asking the left to commemorate some sombre anniversary is like asking a person with a severe bladder control problem to a pool party." More like a severe BOWEL control problem. If it was only a bladder control problem, the other guests might not notice. |
Posted by: mcsegeek1 2006-09-11 17:19 |
#4 Asking the left to commemorate some sombre anniversary is like asking a person with a severe bladder control problem to a pool party. |
Posted by: badanov 2006-09-11 17:08 |
#3 ...the same kind of abject fear theyÂ’d spend the next five years selling to the American people. Luke: "I'm not afraid." Yoda: "You will be. You will be. |
Posted by: Bobby 2006-09-11 16:59 |
#2 ...but at least they're predictable..... |
Posted by: OyVey1 2006-09-11 16:58 |
#1 So lemme see here, looks like some really original thoughts: Rooney: "Why do they hate us, blah,blah,blah..." Black: "Everything is Bush's fault, blah,blah,blah..." Kos: "Everything is Bush's fault, blah,blah,blah..." My God. The left's level of ignorance cannot be described in words. |
Posted by: mcsegeek1 2006-09-11 16:16 |