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| UK Muslims join Taliban to fight against British troops |
| 2006-09-03 |
| BRITISH Pakistanis have joined Taliban insurgents fighting the army in southern Afghanistan, according to intelligence briefings given to senior military commanders. The intelligence about their presence in Helmand province, where 13 British soldiers have died, is believed to have come from Pakistan, where the authorities have recently arrested suspects said to be involved in training Al-Qaeda and Taliban recruits. A Pakistani official confirmed yesterday there were a number of British Pakistanis known to be fighting alongside the Taliban in Afghanistan. “They come here quietly in twos and threes and then disappear. It’s difficult to trace them as they [also] carry Pakistani nationality,” the official said. A source close to the Taliban claimed two British Pakistanis had gone through Waziristan on their way to fight the British Army six weeks ago. A second Pakistan official said others had since gone into Afghanistan “in an individual capacity”. A second source close to the Taliban said “no more than 10” of its fighters were known to be British passport holders, but added: “There are a lot of Pakistanis [fighting with the Taliban] and one cannot say how many hold British passports.” News of British recruits among the Taliban suggests the war in Afghanistan, like that in Iraq, has become a magnet for extremists determined to fight western forces. It comes as the head of Scotland Yard’s anti-terrorist branch told the BBC that British Muslims were also taking part in the fighting in Iraq. Commander Peter Clarke says on the Al-Qaeda: Time to Talk? programme on BBC2 tonight that the number of British Muslims suspected of being involved in supporting terrorism runs into “thousands”. Asked if there was a “pipeline” to carry young British Muslims into Iraq, Clarke says there are “individuals who, with connections, managed to facilitate people’s travel” to Iraq to take part in the insurgency. He adds: “We know who some of them are.” British troops estimate they have killed more than 1,200 Taliban insurgents in the past three months. But there seems to be no shortage of recruits. Chechen, Syrian, Egyptian, Pakistani and Yemeni nationals are among the foreigners fighting for the Taliban, who train recruits in the Pakistani city of Quetta. “The Pakistan border is the problem and we know it is hard to close it all off, but the Taliban seem to have a conveyor belt of new recruits,” one source said. The British fighting has been fierce around the outposts at Sangin, Musa Qala and Nowzad in Helmand over the past few days, with RAF and US aircraft mounting repeated bombing raids. Ranger Anare Draiva, of the Royal Irish Regiment, was killed and another soldier seriously wounded in a Taliban attack on the Musa Qala base last Friday. In another clash, a 20-man British patrol sent to root out a group of Taliban holed up in a house half a mile from the Sangin base last week found themselves outnumbered. The British called in air support and waited while the target was demolished but there were far more Taliban than anticipated. The soldiers were overwhelmed and had to call artillery fire onto their own positions before dashing under Taliban fire back to their base. |
| Posted by:john |
| #10 It sure as hell won't be old home week. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-09-03 21:30 |
| #9 I can just imagine what will happen when they meet up with some squaddies and plead for their lives in broad Leeds/Bradford accents... |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2006-09-03 16:49 |
| #8 Let any British immigrant or national who wants to go to Pakistan do so. Just no round trips. Otherwise, all travel there should be prohibited. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-09-03 14:22 |
| #7 Currently we can't even deport foreign nationals involved in jihadi activities because they claim they'll be tortured in their home countries and the courts rule in their favour. We need new laws to give parliament an absolute right to deport people or revoke citizenships on National Security grounds. |
| Posted by: Apostate 2006-09-03 13:51 |
| #6 What Frank said. |
| Posted by: Phineter Thraviger1073 2006-09-03 12:41 |
| #5 All good comments. This shows their true loyalty. It also demonstrates the reason we have been carrying on in Iraq/Afghanistan. It is a magnet which draws these saps like bees to honey. And we can cut them down at will like ST says. Can't be done in downtown London...yet. |
| Posted by: SOP35/Rat 2006-09-03 12:38 |
| #4 why let em choose? Revoke their British citizenship. Deport em and don't let em back. Dual citizenship is a joke. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-09-03 11:38 |
| #3 It’s difficult to trace them as they [also] carry Pakistani nationality,” the official said. All this time I had no idea that these were dual nationals. That makes things much simpler; require these people to make a choice of one or the other... then do a deep examination of the backgrounds of those who choose to be Pakistani (and of anyone who choses Britain but travels or gets money from Pakistan, which I suspect the MIs are already doing without waiting for my advice). This dual loyalty nonsense is no longer tolerable. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-09-03 11:36 |
| #2 I can sum up this entire situation in one word: flypaper |
| Posted by: reality check 2006-09-03 11:19 |
| #1 At least it offers the chance to simply gun them down, the way you really can't on the streets of London. |
| Posted by: ST 2006-09-03 10:37 |