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Iraq
British to adopt the tactics that beat Rommel
2006-08-24
The soldiers of the Queen's Royal Hussars will today board a fleet of stripped-down Land Rovers, festooned with weapons and equipment, bound for the depths of the Iraqi desert.

Their mission is to adopt tactics pioneered by the Long Range Desert Group, the forerunners of the SAS, more than six decades ago in the campaign against Rommel in North Africa. They will leave Camp Abu Naji, the only permanent base in Maysan province near the local capital of Amarah, and head into the remote region near the border with Iran.

Rather than staying in a fixed spot well known to enemy fighters in the most violent of all the Iraqi provinces under British control, they will live, camp and fight on the move. Roaming through the sparsely populated areas of Maysan, an area as large as Northern Ireland, they will travel without heavy armour that would become bogged down in the sand dunes and sleep under the stars.

Resupply will come from air drops or transport aircraft landing on temporary runways. Lt Col David Labouchere, the regiment's commander, said that when they needed to act they would "surge" from the wilderness. "Maysan is and will always be a problem child," he said. "These people are a little like Texans - armed and against anyone who is not one of them. They do not like foreigners and we are a foreign tribe in their midst."

The men are stoical about the prospect of living in gruelling desert conditions. One captain said: "Those who have been on desert training exercise are less keen. They know that after six days, you realise this is not so special after all. But it is good not to be a fixed target any more. Being here is very wearing on the nerves."

The Army stresses that this redeployment is not linked to constant mortar and rocket attacks on the old base of Camp Abu Naji. At least 281 mortars and rockets have hit the camp since the Hussars arrived in April. In the early months of the British presence, attacks were limited to one or two rounds a night. Now the Shia militiamen loyal to Moqtada al-Sadr, the fiercely anti-western cleric, have taken to firing barrages. One night in May, 54 mortar rounds detonated one after another.

Today the Union flag that has fluttered over the camp since the British arrived in April 2003 will be taken down and the base handed over to the local Iraqi authorities. Brig James Everard, the commander of British forces in south-eastern Iraq, stressed that responsibility for security in Maysan province would not be transferred to Iraqi control.

The adoption of tactics from an older era of British desert warfare would allow proper control of the border area for the first time, he said. America has frequently alleged that weapons and volunteers are being brought in by Iran. One of the first tasks of the Queen's Royal Hussars will be to discover whether this is true.
Posted by:Anonymoose

#27  --These people are a little like Texans - armed and against anyone who is not one of them.--

That's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-08-24 22:08  

#26  If the people of Maysan province were more like Texans, there wouldn't be any problems. If we let the Texans handle their own southern border with Mexico, nobody would be crossing that border illegally. The problem is, we hogtie those that really WANT to do something, instead of letting them get on with it. Turn the SF loose on the Iran/Iraq border with shoot-to-kill orders, and the border will be closed, period. Too bad we're trying to "play nice" instead of playing "kick their a$$".
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-08-24 15:59  

#25  LOD, if you didn't have the lunchbox WITH the graphics-covered thermos inside, you didn't have squat! So there :-)
Posted by: Frank G   2006-08-24 15:53  

#24  " I remember reading on one Milblog, just a snippet of our special forces going out "bare".. without up-armoured vehicles. Was their perferred way. Was in a discussion of the overturning of HUMMVEs (sp) due to the extra weight."

That made me think about when I was in Fallujah during the 04-05 timeframe. I had 6 hummves in my section and only one was up-armored. I liked the regular hummves better because you could see the IEDs before you ran over them. Let's face it, a hummve will never be a good source of protection from a 155mm shell that goes off 5 meters away. In the up-armored vehicles, you could not see as well, so you were more likely to drive pass and IED without knowing it. Of course, if one goes off, the armor will help, but I'd rather not be by it at all if I can. But, a friend of mine who in Fallujah with me back then, and now is in Ramadi, swears by the up armored hummves. He said there are so many IEDs (in Ramadi) that you can't find them all of the time like we did in Fallujah. So in that case, maybe you want an uparmored vehicle.

Anyway, for what the British are doing, I think light is the way to go.
Posted by: Bama Marine   2006-08-24 15:35  

#23  Music video interlude: Bomb Iran
Posted by: Legolas   2006-08-24 15:26  

#22  That was pretty funny, Abdominal.
Posted by: 11A5S   2006-08-24 13:02  

#21  If you're going to make a movie version of these Brits, don't make them as annoying as Lt. Col. Labouchere.

For that matter, you might want to see if you could avoid telling the truth about Monty too. It might be bad for ratings or international relations.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2006-08-24 12:55  

#20  British to adopt the tactics that beat Rommel

You mean defense in depth, interdiction of his sea lines of communication, establishing air superiority, and use of massed armor in close conjunction with coordinated close air support, artillery and infantry? Those tactics?

The LRDG was a bunch of brave men, but their efforts were hardly decisive by themselves. Like the SEALION article below, this article misses the point. Modern military forces (and I include jihadist and guerilla forces here) are highly redundant and survivable and have to be engaged in depth to be defeated. It takes a team of teams, as someone once said. Of course articles about combined arms and joint warfare don't sell magazines and books.
Posted by: 11A5S   2006-08-24 12:24  

#19  #5 As a boy in grammar school, I loved "The Rat Patrol".
Posted by Penguin 2006-08-24 01:09

Yep! I'll do you one better ... I had a metal "Rat Patrol" lunchbox!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden   2006-08-24 12:08  

#18  Texans are well-known for friendliness. The very word "Texas" means "friends". Obviously this nitwit short colonel has never been there.
Posted by: gromky   2006-08-24 10:21  

#17  Hunting, huh? Well, let me tell you there are no size restrictions and screw the limit!
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-08-24 10:13  

#16  Mph. Only half of Maysan province is sand-dune. The rest is half-restored swampland, including some of the most-fought-over sections from the Iran-Iraq War. More to the point, the locals are swamprats by descent and inclination, not desert-nomad Bedouin types. I doubt much smuggling is going on over the open dunes. Marsh Arabs are much more likely to be smuggling through the restored wetlands on the eastern fringes of Maysan than sneaking through the salt-pan desolations of the northern or central border.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2006-08-24 09:59  

#15  Hey, let me know if you win that lottery, Sherry, and I'll take care of the rest. But it will cost you anywhere between $85-$125 million for budget, and there are location problems to consider . . . of course the script has to be written first, so plan on 1-3 years for that, considering the research that will have to go into it to make it accurate and worthwhile. But we all liked Black Hawk Down, yes? I'd love to see some good stuff coming out of this war that truly reflects the everyday heroism of the soldiers on all sides battling terrorism and theological facism ala Islam, but most in the industry can't see past their own brainwashed idiotic liberal ideology and misinformation.

"These people are a little like Texans - armed and against anyone who is not one of them."

Yup, and there be cowboys and indians out there in them wild western plains--not at all a suitable place for more civilized activities--tea time and all. Cheerio.
Posted by: ex-lib   2006-08-24 09:49  

#14  Texans aren't like that at all. Speaking as one, I'd gladly welcome any one of these British Soldiers to visit.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-08-24 09:19  

#13  I predict "hunting" will be very, very good for these lads. I cannot wait to hear of their successes. Thank you Great Britain!
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-08-24 08:34  

#12  ArkoAmericans

Ha!
Posted by: 6   2006-08-24 07:17  

#11  Article: These people are a little like Texans - armed and against anyone who is not one of them.

Another obligatory oblique reference to Bush. You gotta love these Brit officers. It's a compulsive thing with them - they can't resist getting their licks in. Only it used to be that they used snide remarks with respect to the heathens - today, they only dare to do it to Uncle Sam, who's good-natured enough to shrug it off as a misunderstanding.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-08-24 04:13  

#10  "These people are a little like Texans - armed and against anyone who is not one of them."

LOL. He doesn' know any many Texans, LOL. Armed, yes indeed. Against? Naw, not unless you talk funny, LOL. Then we take you from bar to bar and show you off to the real hicks, the Okies and ArkoAmericans. :)
Posted by: flyover   2006-08-24 03:48  

#9  Wearing corduroy breeches and smoking Players if what Grandfather told me was true...
Posted by: Howard UK   2006-08-24 03:32  

#8  declare the iranian border area a free fire zone from sunset til sunrise. That will shut the rat line down.
Posted by: anymouse   2006-08-24 01:40  

#7  Now the Shia militiamen loyal to Moqtada al-Sadr, the fiercely anti-western cleric, have taken to firing barrages.

I dread to think of the far more deserving creatures, like cockroaches, lice and scorpions, that Sadr is depriving of their rightful oxygen.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-08-24 01:37  

#6  I remember reading on one Milblog, just a snippet of our special forces going out "bare".. without up-armoured vehicles. Was their perferred way. Was in a discussion of the overturning of HUMMVEs (sp) due to the extra weight.

About this assassination rule we have, of no assassinations, does Britain serve under that same rule?

Man -- if only our movie makers would get some smarts, and make movies of all of this.. so many dollars to be made!!

And just imagine, all that "stuff" that is being tested and used in this fight, that years from now, the Military Channel will be telling us about.

Winning a huge lottery, I think I would make even more money, 'cause, the producer that begins to turn out some war movies of the exploits of our warriors that have and continue to happen in this fight, would make some great movie making. And, we love our heros. We do so need some new ones.

I know very little about making a movie, but I'm very good at finding and hiring folks to get a job done.

Wish me luck in the lottery! For now, close your eyes tight, take a deep breathe, and will these warriors to be safe, and come home to their nation, their families and friends.
Posted by: Sherry   2006-08-24 01:11  

#5  As a boy in grammar school, I loved "The Rat Patrol".
Posted by: Penguin   2006-08-24 01:09  

#4  The Army stresses that this redeployment is not linked to constant mortar and rocket attacks on the old base of Camp Abu Naji.

yep,

ye will have to redeploy and pee
if thee drink too much Spin Zone Tea

Posted by: RD   2006-08-24 01:00  

#3  Hmmm we seem to be inching closer and closer to Iran. :)
Posted by: djohn66   2006-08-24 00:44  

#2  And I'd add that if they are using the same tactics as the LRDG, it would mean they intend to interdict Al Sadr's (etc.) supply lines from Iran.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-08-24 00:38  

#1  Some interesting first person accounts of the Long Range Desert Group have been published. Worth reading.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-08-24 00:36  

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