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Norwegian Jews told not to provoke harassment
2006-07-21
...by giving up Hebrew and yarmulkes, of course...
The Mosaic Religious Community has advised its Jewish members against speaking Hebrew loudly on the streets of Oslo or wearing Jewish emblems. The suggestion has infuriated some in the membership. It comes after a Jewish man wearing a kippah, or yarmulke, was assaulted on an Oslo street Saturday. The Mosaic Religious Community wants its members to be careful.

"We have encouraged our members to avoid speaking Hebrew loudly on the street," Anne Sender of the Jewish organization told newspaper VÃ¥rt Land. She also told Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) that men may want to reconsider wearing the yarmulke. Sender said she wanted to stress that "the situation for Jews in Norway is better than it has been for a long time," despite current tensions caused by the fighting between Hezbollah and Israel that broke out last week.

That's provoked journalist Mona Levin, daughter of the late pianist Robert Levin. "We can't conceal that we're Jews," Levin said, adding that she intended to start wearing her Star of David. "That's letting ourselves down."
Posted by:Seafarious

#23  During WW-II, Norway showed unbelievable bravery in the effort to neutralize NAZI "Ch"erman seapower. Their efforts and sacrifices, still, to this day, go largely unrecognized here.

"So, I lit a fire, isn't it good Norwegian wood"?
Being so Right-wing that I can't even see through my Left eye, I have to admit that we don't treat our friends and allies fairly. We shift with the prevailing breeze...
Posted by: at   2006-07-21 22:17  

#22  #21 NS - I've said that for several years now.

It would solve problems for both of us.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-07-21 21:58  

#21  The Europeans should import mexicans.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-07-21 21:12  

#20  :>
Posted by: 6   2006-07-21 20:51  

#19  AKA blue-eyed arabs.
Posted by: SamAdamsky   2006-07-21 14:13  

#18  6,

I was trying not to be offensive and ended up using the wrong word. Carry on.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-07-21 13:18  

#17  6,

Thanks for the correction. I meant white Europeans.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-07-21 13:15  

#16  Anglo birthrate?
Posted by: 6   2006-07-21 13:02  

#15  In order to understand the current European stand on Jews, we must first find the root cause of the spreading (like a airborne virus) modern day Jew hatred. The answer is not good news for Jews in Europe.

Everyone knows what happened 60 to 70 years ago. The modern day Jew problem totally different from 60 to 70 years ago. The modern day European Jew hatred is about European existence, not Jew hatred. Of course, there will always be some fringe elements out there.

The root cause is a massive decline in Anglo European birthrates. The Anglo European population is aging rapidly with retirees flooding the socialistic and dependent public sector. With the Anglo birthrate population degradation, Europe is forced into mass immigration. This majority cheap labor immigration influx is from, unfortunately, Islamic states. One can reach the conclusion that this is the reason for all the Jew hatred.

I reach a different conclusion, the problem is not the massive immigration of Muslims alone, the problem is that there was absolutely NO assimilation. The Europeans have made a very dangerous miscalculation in not assimilating the Muslims into the European culture. Well whatÂ’s the solution? Europe has run into a T intersection. Something has to give. Take care of the aging population or stand with the Jews. Since the Jews are few in number the aging population has the ear of the politicians. It saddens me to say this but the Jews in Europe have no choice but to emigrate to Israel or America. The situation will be very dire in the next 20 to 30 years in Europe. Here is a link with some scary details.

"However appealing the exclusionary impulse of the far right seems, Europeans cannot afford to close their doors to newcomers. Without immigration, the population of most European countries is poised to age and shrink. Europe's fertility rate is well below what's needed to keep the population at its current level. Today, there are 35 pensioners for every 100 workers within the European Union. By 2050, current demographic trends would leave Europe with 75 pensioners for every 100 workers, and in countries like Italy and Spain, the ratio would be 1 to 1."

"The European Union is already home to about 15 million Muslims, and this number is expected to double by 2015. About 5 million Muslims live in France alone. Although at least one-half of France's Muslims are French citizens, the community as a whole has been growing more radicalized. A sense of social isolation (many Muslims live in urban ghettos) and of disenfranchisement (there is not a single Muslim in the National Assembly) has been fueling a mounting and angry Islamic fervor."
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-07-21 12:53  

#14  Norway has long been a friend of Israel, and of the Jews generally.

I presume the violence is due to muslim immigrants. I might want Norway to be more effective in clamping down on such violence, but I wouldnt make snide remarks about Norway.

I agree with Ms Levin, be proud and dont hide.

Posted by: liberalhawk   2006-07-21 12:11  

#13  And of course, Norway has lots of .... oil.
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-07-21 11:18  

#12  I have a good friend, Ketil, who was with the Norwegian force in Lebannon. He is very worried about the friends he made there but doesn't think the Israelis should not have retaliated. He was involved in firefights with Hezbollah and still has bad dreams of having to kill people. He wouldn't go back to Norway now for anything. His family all live there but the Islamization of Norway and the Norwegian capitulation to the Muslims gets him depressed very easily. He says most people don't believe they will be affected by the Islamists and he doesn't see any way to change that opinion until something really bad happens.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-07-21 10:49  

#11  Norway also sent its sons to patrol the border between Lebanon and Isreal in the 90's. They would have pot shots taken at them on a regular basis, because Norway is regarded by local thugs as being rich. If they responded with force, usually the village would file a grevience and get a make good payoff for damages. Then the UN put rotated in Pakistani troops and the local vilages screamed "bring back the Norwegians". The violence went down immediately when the locals realized they couldn't "sue" for damages anymore.
Posted by: Capsu 78   2006-07-21 09:25  

#10  ...and don't argue. Just get on the trains when they tell you. It'll be okay. Don't make trouble.
I wonder how many Anne Senders were around in the 1930's?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-07-21 09:17  

#9  I'm of partial Norwegian stock. I'm ashamed of this crap. I also wouldn't touch lutefisk if you paid me.
Posted by: Frank G   2006-07-21 09:14  

#8  Of course, a Jew breathing is a provocation.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2006-07-21 08:43  

#7  I think only Norwegians living in America and longing for the Olde Days ever eat lutefisk anymore.

In Norway you are more likely to get a quizzical look and bland statement like "Why should you eat that? We have refrigeration now."
Posted by: eLarson   2006-07-21 08:39  

#6  Anyone hear a very shrill train whistle off in the distance?
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-07-21 07:20  

#5  What can you expect from people who's favorite dish is "Lutefisk" ?
(Bakala fish soaked for a few months in calcium hydroxide).
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2006-07-21 07:17  

#4  Be vigilant(e)
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2006-07-21 07:08  

#3  Sweden is working on those cattle cars. They haven't done it since some time in the '40's.
Posted by: JDB   2006-07-21 03:31  

#2  "the situation for Jews in Norway is better than it has been for a long time,"

Yes. There has been no talk about politely lining up for the cattle cars. Yet.
Posted by: Fordesque   2006-07-21 01:23  

#1  ...and mind your manners on your way to the Umshlagplatz!
Posted by: borgboy   2006-07-21 01:14  

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