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| Mandela, the statue without a home |
| 2006-06-11 |
| Posted by:ryuge |
| #22 To the topic at hand. Give the statue to South Africa. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2006-06-11 20:53 |
| #21 Mandela was not a racist he was consistant with his belief in a multicultural rainbow state. Africa however is such a cesspool of violence, poverty, misery, incompetence, despair and such a black hole for money that all its peoples hope's and aspirations will wither and die unless we have the political will to enforce order with western soldiers & arms and that's unlikely to happen in our lifetime. |
| Posted by: pihkalbadger 2006-06-11 20:15 |
| #20 Besoeker You forgot mentionning the incredible number of rapes including the rape of six months old babies. Black women, black babies. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-06-11 17:58 |
| #19 MR white IN Spain they say "Say me who you join and I will tell you who you are. Mandela married Winnie. Still unconvinced that Mandela is not what TW says? Mandela has told things like "Al Quaida guys should be judged by Muslims", routijnely criticizes Israel but NEVER, EVER has told anything about genocide in Soudan. I find this funny athat the supposed Black militant attaches so little importance to Black lives. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-06-11 17:54 |
| #18 It has gotten much worse in the last few years Patriot. Serious crime is at epic proportions and farmland siezure is taking place in some areas. Farm families are being murdered and gangs of young heathen rob petrol stations and kill attendants and customers with AK assault rifles in broad daylight. Due to the governments BEE (Black Economic Empowerment) policy, jobs for young while people are rare indeed. The most sought after document in all of South Africa is an American Green card. The South African government openly supports Robert Mugabe and his regime. They're cut from the same ANC cloth, purely communist through and through. Those who speak of a "bloodbath" under apartheid are delusional liberals, and historical revisionists. "Bloodbaths" are happening now in Zim and throughout Africa. Do not blame the colonizers, they brought civilization. When they are gone, civilization will be gone as well. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2006-06-11 17:41 |
| #17 I was corresponding with two or three people in South Africa for several years, until both couples and their families left for fear of their life. One was white, fifth-generation South African, and a college professor. The other was a fourth-generation descendant of the Boers. Both left because things got so bad under Mandela they feared for their lives, and certainly knew they wouldn't be allowed to maintain their current lifestyles. I don't hold Nelson Mandela in any high regards, and his ANC party was certainly bloodthirsty enough, or has everyone forgotten the Soweto riots? A proper place for Mandela's statue is in front of Canterbury Cathedral, but only if his head is bowed in shame. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2006-06-11 17:21 |
| #16 btw PIMF....jeesh |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-06-11 17:11 |
| #15 blodbath of epic proportions And the rest of Africa today, to include Zim in peaceful and calm? The ANC are Russian trained and funded communists. Does anyone remember "communism." |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2006-06-11 17:08 |
| #14 I credit to Mr. Mandela for not using four simple words: "Rise up in anger." The entire continent would have melted down. I dislike most of what's come after, but I respect him on this and this alone. |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-06-11 17:00 |
| #13 Methinks TW and SW are both correct. He was what TW said, then he did what SW said. It coulda been a blodbath of epic proportions, but Mandela didn't need a bloody revolution. |
| Posted by: Brett 2006-06-11 16:25 |
| #12 "Thanks, I remain steadfast in my belief on Mr. Mandela." Of course! One should never allow the facts to get in the way of phealings. -M |
| Posted by: Manolo 2006-06-11 15:59 |
| #11 Thanks, I remain steadfast in my belief on Mr. Mandela. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2006-06-11 15:36 |
| #10 Well, thats a bitch-slap for my most fave Moderator after Sea. And, no, I have no hidden agenda, I'm sure you know what I think from my silly name. |
| Posted by: rhodesiafever 2006-06-11 15:24 |
| #9 I disagree, Steve. While ending apartheid was important, Mr. Mandela is an antisemitic, black racist and an unreconstructed Soviet-style Communist, with absolutely appalling taste in wives, and a revealing taste in friends. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-06-11 15:14 |
| #8 SW - he's SA's McCain - mayb he should be he should be honored for past deeds, but not later actions: his later praise and courtship of the worst thugs and dictators in Africa and the ME have squandered any good feelings I may have. He and Winnie? F*ck em both, and Tutu as well. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-06-11 13:36 |
| #7 Despite the PC media's never ending campaign to make Mandela out as a great man, any unbiased examination of his life would conclude he's an enemy of democracy and a marxist. It's a favorite tactic of the left to say that if you critize Mandela you are a racist and pro-apartheid. Wrong. You can criticize Mandela and expose his lies while at the same time be opposed to racism and apartheid. |
| Posted by: mcsegeek1 2006-06-11 11:38 |
| #6 "Mandela was a great man..." *snort* Barkeep, I'll take one of whatever he's drinking. 190 proof Old Hyperbole? Sure, okay. |
| Posted by: flyover 2006-06-11 10:33 |
| #5 Sorry folks, disagree. Mandela was a great man and helped solve a problem that could have exploded into millions of deaths. He's not a murderer, nor is he a racist. I salute the man and I hope they find an appropriate place for the statue -- but not near Nelson. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2006-06-11 10:06 |
| #4 Just outside the main entrance to the Voortrekker monument? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2006-06-11 09:05 |
| #3 That shows how low some of the Brits have gone--400,000 pounds for a statue of a murdering racist with strong communist leanings. I suspect the folks in Bladon have long since gotten used to a loud 50 Hz hum emanating from Winston Churchill's grave. |
| Posted by: mac 2006-06-11 02:25 |
| #2 They are going to put a statue of Mandela in the same place where Nelson's Column is? How naive are they? |
| Posted by: Penguin 2006-06-11 01:23 |
| #1 As the finishing touches are put to the £400,000 sculpture, the capital's authorities are still arguing about where to put it How about on the deck of the Oriskany? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2006-06-11 00:54 |