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| On the "United 93" homepage, Universal Studios has a site to cover their butts from the lefty crowd: Why Do They Hate America? A few tidbits; Conflicts Past And Present Trade routes and immigration began to make the world more of a global enterprise well before our contemporary period. As a result of these and more stable ways of travel, cultures and religions began to collide. There is a long history of division that is rooted in both politics and religion. Here are several highlights that may help identify the history of the conflicts. The Crusades are a violent episode between Europe and the East. They begin in the eleventh century and last for several hundred years. One notable purpose of the Crusades was to take back the Holy Land (Jerusalem) from the Muslims. Europe succeeded in this endeavor in the first crusade. In the end, history has not looked kindly on this exposition that Pope Innocent II had declared a holy war against the infidels. Islam rebounded and expanded with the creation of the Ottoman Empire. They won back Constantinople (which changed hands several times before the modern day name change of Istanbul) and took Serbia in the key Battle of Kosovo where the Ottoman army met the Serb’s Christian forces. The year was 1389. Then, in 1683, the Ottomans went on the offensive again and took Austria in the decisive Battle of Vienna. Well, no, they didn't: At 4 in the morning, on September 12, the Austrian army on the left, and the German forces in the center moved forward, in an attack (which was aimed at preventing another long siege) against the Turks. Mustafa Pasha launched a counter-attack, with most of his force. Then the Polish infantry launched a massive assault upon the right flank. After 12 hours of fighting, Sobieski's Polish force held the high ground on the right. At about five o'clock in the afternoon, four cavalry groups, one of them Austrian-German, and the other three composed of Polish hussars, totaling 20,000 men in all and led by the Polish king, charged down the hills. In the confusion, they made straight for the Ottoman camps, while the Vienna garrison sallied out of its defenses, and joined in the assault. In less than three hours, the Polish forces won the battle, as the Turkish army beat a hasty retreat to the south and east. The Turks lost about 15,000 men in the fighting, compared to approximately 4,000 for the Habsburg-Polish forces. This resulted in even more influence given to the Ottoman Empire in the state of European politics. There were now two equally powerful sides and a widening gulf between what would later be called the East and West. In more modern times there have been several clashes of East and West. The Ottoman Empire quickly declined in the first years of the 1900s due in part to civil unrest. There were also disputes over the British control of the Suez Canal that connected Europe with the Far East in terms of trade. By 1924, the Ottoman Empire came to a close when it was constitutionally abolished internally. Over the decades, with no clear identification with an empire, fundamentalism grew up within Islam with jihad as a focal point. Jihad is an idea that goes back to Muhammad and means “struggle.” Taken to an extreme, jihad can mean holy war against those who do not adhere to Islamic faith.
the USS Cole blast, the 9/11 catastrophe,
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| Posted by:Steve |
| #14 Ah yes, the Thirty Years War: when Sweden had one of the best militaries around and wasn't afraid to use it. |
| Posted by: Xbalanke 2006-04-27 18:27 |
| #13 Hey, on the 30 years war don't knock us good Lutherans.. We ran some solid battles. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2006-04-27 18:02 |
| #12 Nothing like the 30-Years War to give one a real feel for breaking things and killing folks. Invented in Europe. |
| Posted by: 6 2006-04-27 15:52 |
| #11 When Jan Sobieski arrived at Veienna, he supposedly took one look at the Turkish encampment and knew immediately that victory was at hand. During the course of the bloody 30-Years War (1618-1648), the Europeans had made great strides in the military sciences. They Turks, on the other hand, fell behind -- and were never able to catch up. (Although they did use machine guns quite effectively at Gallipoli in WWI, and then smashed the over-extended Greeks in the early 1920s). |
| Posted by: pagan infidel 2006-04-27 15:40 |
| #10 I read that the cute little Hollywood actress Leelee Sobieski (Joan of Arc, etc) was a descendent of the hero of the Siege of Vienna. http://imdb.com/find?s=all&q=sobieski |
| Posted by: JDB 2006-04-27 14:53 |
| #9 The Ottomans did not "win back" Constantinople, which had been a Christian city from the time of its refoundation in the 4th century until its conquest by the Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II in 1453. True, the city had fallen in 1204, but that was to Western Christians. Most historians would say that the Ottoman Empire peaked under Suleiman (1520-1566). The early 1600s were not a good time, as the empire was hard-hit by rebellions in Anatolia. It recovered a bit under the Koprolu Viziers in the mid and late 1600s (taking Crete from Venice, for example), but the assault on Vienna was a disaster. The head of the Vizier was sent to the sultan on a silver tray, and soon afterwards the Austrians took all of Hungary from the Ottomans. Its was pretty much downhill for the Turks after that. |
| Posted by: pagan infidel 2006-04-27 14:50 |
| #8 They won back Constantinople (which changed hands several times before the modern day name change of Istanbul) Even old New York was once New Amsterdam. ;) |
| Posted by: BH 2006-04-27 14:22 |
| #7 Ptah, I'd say the avoidance of historical knowledge is deliberate. All the ensuing idiocies that then result are accidental. |
| Posted by: Dreadnought 2006-04-27 14:21 |
| #6 you can go further back than that, OP: within 100 years of mohammed's death, the Muslim armies were beaten back at Tours, France by Charles Martel after they overran North Africa and Spain. Rome was invaded and sacked within 200 years. The first Crusade was launched 300 years after Tours, after centuries of provocations. One has to ask whether this lack of historical knowledge is accidental or deliberate. |
| Posted by: Ptah 2006-04-27 14:09 |
| #5 Urban II is the pope most associated with getting the Crusades going. Innocent II took office well after the First Crusade was finished and died several years before the 2nd started. Also, since the United States wasn't founded for hundreds of years after the last Crusade was finished, I don't see what one has to do with the other except the standard AMERICA IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL IN THE WORLD SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME |
| Posted by: Dreadnought 2006-04-27 14:09 |
| #4 Who wrote this crap? Obviously they've never encountered a history book. The Ottoman Empire peaked in 1750, and steadily declined after that. The Spaniards drove the last of the Moors from the Iberian peninsula in 1492. The Greeks revolted in 1824, and between then and 1918, steadily drove the Turks (and therefore, mulims) out of Greece. The French, Italians, British and Spain colonized most of North Africa between 1798 and 1840. These same nations also gained control of India, Yemen, Ceylon, Burma, Malaysia and many other formerly muslim nations around the same time. The Turks sided with the Austria-Germany alliance during World War I, and were on the losing side. The Ottoman Empire, which stretched from Persia to Egypt, was broken up as part of the treaty settlement following the war. Kemal Attaturk revolted against the Grand Pasha in 1928, and founded the current secular state of Turkey. This article is about like Hollywood's movies - based on what the Hollywoodmoles think SHOULD have happened, rather than upon accepted and documented history. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2006-04-27 13:45 |
| #3 the 9/11 catastrophe What a vile euphemism for mass murder. |
| Posted by: Matt 2006-04-27 13:40 |
| #2 The authors of this tripe are products of what American education has become since the left took over in the 60's. They have a minimal, distorted grasp of history and absolutely no problem solving ability. They are basically useless and if left to their own devices would starve. |
| Posted by: RWV 2006-04-27 13:27 |
| #1 The Crusades are a violent episode between Europe and the East. They begin in the eleventh century and last for several hundred years. One notable purpose of the Crusades was to take back the Holy Land (Jerusalem) from the Muslims. Europe succeeded in this endeavor in the first crusade. In the end, history has not looked kindly on this exposition that Pope Innocent II had declared a holy war against the infidels. |
| Posted by: anonymous5089 2006-04-27 13:24 |